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Old 05-01-2011, 01:21 PM   Topic Starter
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Mel Kiper: Of the 2011 QB draft class, Ricky Stanzi will have the best NFL career...
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I'm watching a draft wrap up show with Kiper, McShay, Herm and Bruschi. That was the question. Of this 2011 QB draft class, which QB will have the best career? Mel said Ricky Stanzi will be the QB for the Chiefs in 2 - 3 years and will have the best NFL career. The other three hosts fell out of their chairs.
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:22 PM   #2
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:22 PM   #3
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:25 PM   #4
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:27 PM   #5
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Cool. What were his thoughts on Ryan Leaf?
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:45 PM   #6
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Cool. What were his thoughts on Ryan Leaf?


"*Another King gem from '98 draft: " I think (Peyton) Manning is 3 percent better than Leaf and will be, long term, a better pro, but Leaf will be good too." (3% BETTER???... Manning: 216 career TD's, 92 rating, Ryan Leaf: 14 TD's 36 ints. 3 seasons....What kind of percentage is that?????......50 BAZILLION%????)

YOU DIDN'T THINK WE WOULD FORGET MEL KIPER DID YOU???

Mel Kiper in an ESPN chat April 18, 2001:

batman: How does the Chiefs running back situation look, do you think they will draft a running back like (LaDanian) Tomlinson or (Duece) McAllister, or will they sign someone like Priest Holmes?
Mel Kiper Jr.: I don't think Priest Holmes is feature back material. RB is certainly a need, as is QB. It will be interesting to see if the Trent Green situation takes place. (As a Chief, Holmes has 70 TD's and over 5,000 yards rushing in 4 seasons)

Mel on Kalimba Edwards before the 2002 draft: "Edwards flies out of the blocks, has improved his pass-rush technique over the years, will be a 10-sack type guy and always hustles on plays directed to the opposite side of the field."

Kiper on the 1998 draft debate of Manning or Leaf? "He isn't John Elway, Dan Marino or Jim Kelly, but he's as good as it gets in college football," Kiper said of Manning. "A lot of these teams in the NFL are desperate for quarterbacks and he's the best out there, with Ryan Leaf a real close second."

*Check out Mel Kiper going 0 for 31 in the 2001 NFL draft in his mock posted a week before the draft! (He got Michael Vick as the #1 pick but to the Chargers, not the Falcons...that was as close to a right pick as Mel Hair got in 2001)

*Mel got 5 right in this 2004 mock draft 3 weeks before the draft! (That's 6.4%)

*Here is SI's 1999 mock draft where they went 1 for 31 (Tim Couch to Cleveland with #1 pick...that's 0.3%) It had Lions taking Jevon Kearse with 9th pick.

I'm not making fun of these guys, the point is this: The NFL draft is one of the least understood days in sports from the GM's to the mock jockeys on the net. Take a look at the post on the blog which explains that almost 50% of top ten picks from 1990-2000 were busts! The numbers decline from there. (We'll talk about it on Thursday's SNL Show.) Teams have their boards, Mel slicks his hair with cement and ESPN makes a male soap opera out of the whole thing. It's a slick production, but it's closer to a game of Russian Roulette than anything else.

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at the 1979 Fall meetings, NFL owners unanimously (28-0) rejected the idea of allowing upstart network ESPN to televise the Draft
George Grande, Bob Ley and former NFL General Manager Joe Thomas anchored ESPN's inaugural Draft coverage in 1980
Mel Kiper, Jr. joined the ESPN crew in 1984"
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:29 PM   #7
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Before the draft that year, I remember an analyst saying that Brodie Croyle would have the best career of the bunch.
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:31 PM   #8
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Before the draft that year, I remember an analyst saying that Brodie Croyle would have the best career of the bunch.
Stanzi has injury problems, but he's no Brokie.

If he stays on the field when his number is called, I think he'll be fine
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Old 05-01-2011, 02:53 PM   #9
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Before the draft that year, I remember an analyst saying that Brodie Croyle would have the best career of the bunch.

Peyton Manning's lost more games than Brodie.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:20 PM   #10
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Peyton Manning's lost more games than Brodie.
You have won as many games as Brokie.
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:29 PM   #11
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You have won as many games as Brokie.
True. But I do have talents Croyle or manning can't even begin to compare with.
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Old 05-01-2011, 01:32 PM   #12
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If Kiper said it, it must be true.

Who the **** made him the resident expert anyway? Some of the guys around here hold more credibility with me than he does ffs.

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... with the Chiefs.

I'm watching a draft wrap up show with Kiper, McShay, Herm and Bruschi. That was the question. Of this 2011 QB draft class, which QB will have the best career? Mel said Ricky Stanzi will be the QB for the Chiefs in 2 - 3 years and will have the best NFL career. The other three hosts fell out of their chairs.
The show lost all credibilty when they put Herm on it...
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Old 05-01-2011, 02:03 PM   #15
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The show lost all credibilty when they put Herm on it...
Yeah.. What were producers thinking.. If they ever have guest analyst on, every time he said something stupid I would bring up the fact of some of his atrocious decisions as a coach..
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