Grading Carl Peterson's offseason moves....

[CHIEF4EVER]

[rant]I just got back from the road and finally have a few days off to get my Planet fix. However, I have been closely following the personnel moves (non moves) on Sirius NFL channel. I grade Peterson's performance as follows:

1) Not signing Samari Rolle. F-

We had him here and nobody in this world can tell me they believe the BS reason CP gave as to why they didn't sign him. "Narrowing of the Spine"? Just how friggin stupid does Peterson think we are? When I heard that, the Peterson Screwed-the-Pooch O Meter went off the fuggin scale.

2) Signing Kendrell Bell. C (at best).

We don't sign a perfectly healthy top notch corner who is rarely injured if at all; but instead sign a LB who is top notch WHEN HEALTHY. The same one who missed all but 3 games last year because HE WAS INJURED. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE the signing. It was the sheer illogic of it that makes me want to take a chain saw to Peterson's car. Not to mention, why sign a player that has a history of injury in all but his rookie year over one (Ed Hartwell) who is young and healthy to a long term deal?

3) Not signing Fred Smoot. F-

After NOT signing Rolle, he fuggs this up too. If we had gotten Bell and Smoot I would have been exstatic. But, we have Bell and nothing else at this point. Granted, the new rules make a shutdown corner an anachronism but we still play in a Division with the likes of Lelie, Moss, etc.... Can anyone confidently say that Crispy, Toasty or McNugget can cover Moss for even a few seconds? Corner is still a high priority. Nice job Carl.

Summary: Final grade thus far...D-

Our offense isn't getting any younger and we have 1 or maybe 2 runs at the big dance left before the offense has to be retooled. I had hoped CP and Co would go all out for a run NOW by getting as many (within financial boundaries) defensive upgrades as possible. I have been in CP's corner for many years now but this offseason is making me rethink that position. If the remaining offseason moves (FA and draft) don't give us a middle of the rod defense AT THE VERY LEAST, I am all for dragging our GM through the streets behind his own SUV by his entrails. Mr Peterson, if you want to mess up a team please go elsewhere and do so. [/rant]

[Logical]

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

Come on Hoover, don't be dense. Rolle has no injury concerns. Carl is a moron.

Regardless of the first sentences valid or invalid premise. The second statement is basically no longer in dispute with 80% of the fan base. That figure is likely to continue to grow.

[CHIEF4EVER]

Originally Posted by rufusmaqe

Obviously he played through injuries. That doesn't mean he wasn't injured.

True. But to say he is injury prone is also an incorrect statement. Any GOOD player sacks up when he gets an "owie" and does what he is paid to do. That being said, would you agree the team would have been dramatically better WITH him at CB than Crispy, Toasty or McNugget? That is really the point here. IS HE A DRAMATIC UPGRADE OR NOT? If he is so "injury prone", why did Belichik jump on him like a hobo on a ham sandwich? Just because I finally brought some criticism of the FO to the table after all these years doesn't mean I am any less a fan or homer, I just laid the blinders to the side for a bit.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Gaz

I don’t know.

How many times has our Defense been so wretchedly bad that the Chiefs publicly proclaimed that we need new LBs & CBs?

The thing is, FA lasts until July 22nd. Until that time, we cannot accurately or fairly judge any team’s FA moves.

That, of course, assumes that we have a passing interest in accuracy or fairness.

xoxo~
Gaz
Not sure that applies to the Planet.

My real point is that an impact free agent freeing up after the draft is extremely rare. If we have not got the player by the draft The Refrigerator is Closed, the Eggs are chilling, and the Beer is getting cold.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

My real point is that an impact free agent freeing up after the draft is extremely rare. If we have not got the player by the draft The Refrigerator is Closed, the Eggs are chilling, and the Beer is getting cold.

I think it's at this point where I note that Holmes and Green were acquired around draft time...

Let the flames begin.

[Gaz]

Vlad Logicslav-

Well, there is a difference between thee and me.

I chose to wait until FA is over to make a pronouncement.

Must be an Engineer thing…

xoxo~
Gaz
Bases his judgments on those pesky old facts.

[Chiefnj]

People are really parsing words over Rolle. How many games has Rolle missed in his career because of his spine?

If free agency ended today Carl would get an F. I believe Peterson himself stated on some interviews that the goal was to sign 2 or 3 impact defensive free agents. He hasn't achieved his own goal yet so he fails.

[Braincase]

I'm still a bit down, but won't judge until the team roster is finalized. For all we know, there will be June 1st cuts that make us into ... something a little bit better than last years team.

[Chiefnj]

Originally Posted by Gaz

Vlad Logicslav-

Well, there is a difference between thee and me.

I chose to wait until FA is over to make a pronouncement.

Must be an Engineer thing…

xoxo~
Gaz
Bases his judgments on those pesky old facts.

Being that you are in the aeronautic industry I'd feel safer if the engineers would speculate on things rather than wait until the airplane actually blows up in midflight.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

I think it's at this point where I note that Holmes and Green were acquired around draft time...

Let the flames begin.

First Green was not a free agent, second that just supports my argument that basically nothing of significance tends to happen after the draft. Priest was acquired before the draft and Trent was aquired on draft day.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

I think it's at this point where I note that Holmes and Green were acquired around draft time...

Let the flames begin.

Green was aquired in trade, and I think by "impact free agent" they mean a highly sought after player with a proven history as a playmaker type.

I don't believe that Priest was that.

Clearly he has been an impact signing.

[Logical]

Originally Posted by Gaz

Vlad Logicslav-

Well, there is a difference between thee and me.

I chose to wait until FA is over to make a pronouncement.

Must be an Engineer thing…

xoxo~
Gaz
Bases his judgments on those pesky old facts.

That might work except we are both engineers. I am an EE.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

First neither was a free agent, second that just supports my argument that basically nothing of significance tends to happen after the draft.

Holmes was a UFA who was released by Baltimore and Green is about as much of a 'FA' as Surtain is.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Bell - A

I think the Bell signing will be huge.

IMO, we just got a Derrick Thomas type player for a 3.5 M siging Bonus.

Do you hear that sound?

Thats the sound of your credibility being flushed down the toilet.

You just compared Kendrell Bell to one of the greatest linebackers of all time, Derrick Thomas. You are officially section 8. Seek immediate psychiatric help.

He had a great rookie season, and then a couple pretty decent seasons afterward. Then the injuries.

Lots of guys have a single pro bowl appearance on their resume. That doesnt put them in the same category as DT.

Just because the guy shows up to Arrowhead Stadium sporting a DT jersey doesnt put him in the same league as he was.


Seriously now. I think this team's lack of a playmaker on defense has seriously altered the mental state of some people. When a decent player (when healthy) is signed and DT comparisons start popping up, its time to step back and look at the situation a bit more closely.


Kendrell Bell is better than Kawika Mitchell, if he can stay on the field. When he starts putting up double digit sack numbers yearly, and racking up Pro Bowl appearances, then I might consider putting him in the category of "Derrick Thomas Type" of player.

Until then, head on down the hall for your straightjacket fitting.

[Gaz]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Being that you are in the aeronautic industry I'd feel safer if the engineers would speculate on things rather than wait until the airplane actually blows up in midflight.

If the airplane did not have to fly until July 22nd, I would not ground it on March 9th.

BTW, Engineers do not “speculate.” An Engineer gathers all the pertinent information available and makes a rational decision based solely on those facts.

xoxo~
Gaz
Cleaning up a really awful analogy.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by SideWinder

Green was aquired in trade, and I think by "impact free agent" they mean a highly sought after player with a proven history as a playmaker type.

I don't believe that Priest was that.

Clearly he has been an impact signing.

Feh...an impact free agent is a player who makes an impact on YOUR team. There's no need to parse it any further than that. Using your definition you could say that Hugh Douglas was an 'impact FA' for Jax or Trotter for the Skins who is still paying 5M in cap hit for him today...