Football Quarterbackery: Round 1, Heat 2 - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 05-31-2016, 10:50 AM

Today we compare the franchises of Baltimore and Buffalo. Baltimore has not existed for 50 years, so we'll add percentages of franchise history for this comparison.

(And yeah, it makes the shorter-lived franchises more boom or bust, but there's not much we can do about it.)

Baltimore

Joe Flacco - 8 seasons as quarterback (40% of history)
Kyle Boller - 4 (20% of history)
Tony Banks - 2 (10% of history)
Vinny Testaverde - 2 (10% of history)
Steve McNair - 1 (5% of history)
Jeff Blake - 1 (5% of history)
Elvis Grbac - 1 (5% of history)
Jim Harbaugh - 1 (5% of history)

They produced 1 pro bowl from this group - Testaverde in 1996. (Wow - Flacco has never been to a pro bowl?)

Buffalo

Joe Ferguson - 12 (24% of history)
Jim Kelly - 11 (22% of history)
Ryan Fitzpatrick - 4 (8% of history)
Drew Bledsoe - 3 (6% of history)
Dennis Shaw - 3 (6% of history)
Jack Kemp - 3 (led team for 6 seasons, 3 before 1966) (6% of history)
Doug Flutie - 2 (4% of history)
Trent Edwards - 2 (4% of history)
Tyrod Taylor - 1 (Current starter) (2% of history)
Kyle Orton - 1 (2% of history)
E.J. Manuel - 1 (2% of history)
J.P. Losman - 1 (2% of history)
Kelly Holcomb - 1 (2% of history)
Alex Van Pelt - 1 (2% of history)
Rob Johnson - 1 (2% of history)
Todd Collins - 1 (2% of history)
Vince Ferragamo - 1 (2% of history)
Dan Darragh - 1 (2% of history)

They produced 10 pro bowlers in 50 years, with Jim Kelly leading at 5. I'm a bit surprised that Joe Ferguson never made a pro bowl, too.

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-01-2016, 01:50 PM

Wait, when we are voting for the more successful franchise, are we talking strictly QB-wise, or just more successful in general?

ClevelandBronco · 06-01-2016, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

A conclusion that is immediately jumping out at me so far is that one good pick in a 50-year period makes a difference.

One good pick.

In a 50-year period.

That's kind of freaky to think about.

It also works when another team picks a guy but the guy refuses to play for that team and picks his own team instead.

View Poll Results: Compare and contrast the QB history of these teams.
*** Part 1 - Which team has a better 50-year history?	1	1.79%
Baltimore	13	23.21%
Buffalo	42	75.00%
*** Part 2 - How would you rate the Ravens' quarterback history?	1	1.79%
Very Strong	1	1.79%
Somewhat strong	6	10.71%
About average	28	50.00%
Somewhat weak	19	33.93%
Very weak	2	3.57%
*** Part 3 - How would you rate the Bills' quarterback history?	1	1.79%
Very strong	4	7.14%
Somewhat strong	26	46.43%
About average	19	33.93%
Somewhat weak	6	10.71%
Very weak	0	0%
Quarterbacks are superfluous in the modern NFL.	2	3.57%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

05-31-2016, 10:50 AM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3368491 VARSITY	Quarterbackery: Round 1, Heat 2 Today we compare the franchises of Baltimore and Buffalo. Baltimore has not existed for 50 years, so we'll add percentages of franchise history for this comparison. (And yeah, it makes the shorter-lived franchises more boom or bust, but there's not much we can do about it.) Baltimore Joe Flacco - 8 seasons as quarterback (40% of history) Kyle Boller - 4 (20% of history) Tony Banks - 2 (10% of history) Vinny Testaverde - 2 (10% of history) Steve McNair - 1 (5% of history) Jeff Blake - 1 (5% of history) Elvis Grbac - 1 (5% of history) Jim Harbaugh - 1 (5% of history) They produced 1 pro bowl from this group - Testaverde in 1996. (Wow - Flacco has never been to a pro bowl?) Buffalo Joe Ferguson - 12 (24% of history) Jim Kelly - 11 (22% of history) Ryan Fitzpatrick - 4 (8% of history) Drew Bledsoe - 3 (6% of history) Dennis Shaw - 3 (6% of history) Jack Kemp - 3 (led team for 6 seasons, 3 before 1966) (6% of history) Doug Flutie - 2 (4% of history) Trent Edwards - 2 (4% of history) Tyrod Taylor - 1 (Current starter) (2% of history) Kyle Orton - 1 (2% of history) E.J. Manuel - 1 (2% of history) J.P. Losman - 1 (2% of history) Kelly Holcomb - 1 (2% of history) Alex Van Pelt - 1 (2% of history) Rob Johnson - 1 (2% of history) Todd Collins - 1 (2% of history) Vince Ferragamo - 1 (2% of history) Dan Darragh - 1 (2% of history) They produced 10 pro bowlers in 50 years, with Jim Kelly leading at 5. I'm a bit surprised that Joe Ferguson never made a pro bowl, too.
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06-01-2016, 01:50 PM	#16
Mama Hip Rockets You don't faze me, Gobble. Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $10005644	Wait, when we are voting for the more successful franchise, are we talking strictly QB-wise, or just more successful in general?
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