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Old 03-04-2013, 07:21 AM   #3826
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There were a couple things that stood out to me in this episode:

1. After Carl shoots the guy, he doesn't just stare at his body in utter disbelief that he did it. He's growing up in this world quickly and is beginning to just react and not think.

2. Rick seemed unconcerned that there were some serious dangers in Morgan's fort He just let Carl go out. Rick is beginning to trust both Carl and Michonne. Loved the focus on just those 3 characters.

3. Rick is back. He doesn't want to become Morgan.

4. Lastly, the guy on the road was deep. It showed the utter indifference and callousness the group, even Carl, now have for outsiders. I felt like it was great writing to just have the guy yelling for them to help him. They didn't say a word to one another, just drove on. And after the guy was torn to bits, just took his pack.

I thought the whole "You know me" sequence was a reference to that. It was the last person Rick knows from outside of the group and he realized, you don't know other people and you can't trust them anymore. Felt like that was his wake up call and all semblence of humanity for anyone outside of the group itself is gone.

Also at the end when Carl apologizes for shooting Morgan and Morgan said "don't ever apologize", reinforced the theme of the episode.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:22 AM   #3827
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Great episode. That fortress that Morgan staged was badass. What will become of the bullet that Michonne gave Rick..?

He'll find it in his pocket when he's out of bullets fighting the governor, load it, and shoot the governor through the other eye. Boom!
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:26 AM   #3828
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Much, much better episode than last week. One of the best of the season even though there was no main plot development.

Good to see the callback to the Morgan character even though his situation was excessively dreary. It wouldn't bother me if that's the only time we see him either. It seems he may have served a role in getting Rick back on the right track and into a better frame of mind. Rick saw in Morgan what he could himself become if he completely loses control (not that you can really blame Morgan considering what he's had to deal with). The scenes between Rick and him were among the best we've seen in quite a while on this show.

Also was nice to have Michonne have some lines and actual character development instead of her usual mute, stone-face routine. Even if it was a rather pointless and risky journey for Carl's photo, it did work.

Bookending it with the hitchhiker on the road was also a nice touch considering the tone of the episode.

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Old 03-04-2013, 07:36 AM   #3829
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They played the same music when he was telling the story about his son getting "turned" by his wife as when he had his wife in the crosshairs in episode 1.2.
Loved that scene about Duane and his mother.One of those that was so good on the storytelling that it didn't take your imagination much to picture how all unfolded.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:22 AM   #3830
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I could see with that, but I think I'm going to go with clearing the conscience. Especially when Morgan told Carl never to be sorry.
Sure but the physical manifestation of clearing his conscience is clearing out the zombies. That’s why he’s got his neighborhood stacked with zombie traps, and that scene as they’re driving away and you catch just a quick glimpse of Morgan adding bodies to the fire pile.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:23 AM   #3831
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Great episode. That fortress that Morgan staged was badass. What will become of the bullet that Michonne gave Rick..?
He loaded it in the gun when he was behind the truck. Jumped up to shoot Morgan on the roof but he wasn't there. I doubt the bullet holds any significance.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:26 AM   #3832
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There were a couple things that stood out to me in this episode:

1. After Carl shoots the guy, he doesn't just stare at his body in utter disbelief that he did it. He's growing up in this world quickly and is beginning to just react and not think.

2. Rick seemed unconcerned that there were some serious dangers in Morgan's fort He just let Carl go out. Rick is beginning to trust both Carl and Michonne. Loved the focus on just those 3 characters.

3. Rick is back. He doesn't want to become Morgan.

4. Lastly, the guy on the road was deep. It showed the utter indifference and callousness the group, even Carl, now have for outsiders. I felt like it was great writing to just have the guy yelling for them to help him. They didn't say a word to one another, just drove on. And after the guy was torn to bits, just took his pack.

I thought the whole "You know me" sequence was a reference to that. It was the last person Rick knows from outside of the group and he realized, you don't know other people and you can't trust them anymore. Felt like that was his wake up call and all semblence of humanity for anyone outside of the group itself is gone.

Also at the end when Carl apologizes for shooting Morgan and Morgan said "don't ever apologize", reinforced the theme of the episode.
Carl is growing into a badass but Rick is going to have to rein him in a bit. Notice how he jumped up on the bar before clearing the backside of it? He almost paid the price for that one and he’s going to be walker bait until he learns a bit more caution.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:54 AM   #3833
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Pretty good bottle episode. Hope we see more Morgan in the future.
I think we’ll see more of Morgan. In the after show they pointed out how intricate his setup is. I didn’t notice it until they pointed it out but he has color coded escape routes that lead to ladders that are also color coded and ropes strung back and forth from building tops to the “tower of power” as zip lines. When the writers spend that much thought on his setup I have to assume they’ll get more than one episode out of it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:16 AM   #3834
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I think we’ll see more of Morgan. In the after show they pointed out how intricate his setup is. I didn’t notice it until they pointed it out but he has color coded escape routes that lead to ladders that are also color coded and ropes strung back and forth from building tops to the “tower of power” as zip lines. When the writers spend that much thought on his setup I have to assume they’ll get more than one episode out of it.
They also made a point for Rick to tell him where they were staying (In the prison). I assume Morgan knows where the prison is.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:49 AM   #3835
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As stated. I loved that they fleshed out michonne finally. Every viewer wanted her dead because she is boring. And frankly. They have killed almost every black character. Maybe they can get m&ms to sponser morgan and michonne.

Also. I would one up a moat. 20+ deep concrete ditch. That way you can burn them down there.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:01 PM   #3836
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Not much of a plot development. The guns were secondary to the point of this episode.

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I kind of doubt Morgan will be going to help anybody in his current state of mind. In fact, I'd be surprised if we saw him again for the rest of this season. He seems to be solely committed to the process of "clearing," not involving himself in humanity's conflicts any more. His appearance also worked pretty effectively as a one-time thing outside the realm of the normal happenings on the show.
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I will say that, from a zombie survival lore standpoint, this episode was pretty cool. The zombie traps were ingenious as were the animals in cages as a distraction.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:54 PM   #3838
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As stated. I loved that they fleshed out michonne finally. Every viewer wanted her dead because she is boring. And frankly. They have killed almost every black character. Maybe they can get m&ms to sponser morgan and michonne.

Also. I would one up a moat. 20+ deep concrete ditch. That way you can burn them down there.
Where you going to get all that concrete, mixer, and people to get that ditch put in? Plus while that mixer is going, who is going to be taking care of all te zombies the sounds of the motor would attract?
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:22 PM   #3839
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Carl is growing into a badass but Rick is going to have to rein him in a bit. Notice how he jumped up on the bar before clearing the backside of it? He almost paid the price for that one and he’s going to be walker bait until he learns a bit more caution.
Yea, I noticed that and I agree. Damn good thing Michonne was there to skewer his face.

I used to not be able to stand Carl, but he is definitely growing on me.
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They also made a point for Rick to tell him where they were staying (In the prison). I assume Morgan knows where the prison is.
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