What WR are we going to draft in round one next year? - Page 3

CanadaKC · 10-14-2005, 03:47 PM

It's a given is it not?

HolmeZz · 10-14-2005, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ZootedGranny

I haven't seen a guy yet that sticks out as a must have WR prospect in this upcoming class.

You've got a bunch of guys that have potential, like Hagan, Breaston, Holmes, Ginn, Jarrett, etc...but nobody like a Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson. The closest guy in my opinion is Calvin Johnson, but he likely won't come out for a couple of more years.

Johnson and Jarrett are only sophs and Ginn and Breaston are glorified kick-returners. Hagan's good, but I don't think he'll ever be a superstar type. Holmes is a playmaker, I like him. And Chad Jackson's emerging; I'd love to have him.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-15-2005, 12:58 AM

I'm betting OL in the first . The upcoming draft class is going to be the deepest since at OL since the 2000 draft .

Prince22 · 10-15-2005, 01:43 AM

Round 6 Kennan Burton - UK

KCChiefsMan · 10-15-2005, 04:21 AM

look at the projected 2nd and 3rd round picks for WRs and that should narrow it down and then it's whoever's the fastest and skiniest

Mecca · 10-15-2005, 04:31 AM

Tedd Ginn, Calvin Johnson and Dwayne Jarrett aren't draft eligible. Considering what this team is probably going to go through after this year. Overhaul of the coaching staff, purging of players to get under the cap and all of that. They should probably be taking best player available in every round, this team is going to have to go through a major rebuilding phase after this season.

Extra Point · 10-15-2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I'm betting OL in the first . The upcoming draft class is going to be the deepest since at OL since the 2000 draft .

Agreed

Chiefnj · 10-15-2005, 09:28 AM

College players who've impressed me so far:

Martin Nance - WR Miami of Ohio
Tamba Hali (sp?) - DE of Penn State.
AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio.

JBucc · 10-15-2005, 09:41 AM

I don't see any real good recievers in this draft so I say go for a lineman of some sort. O lineman or D lineman whichever is fine with me.

B_Ambuehl · 10-15-2005, 09:58 AM

There are too many good WRs available every year in free agency that are too easy to get and young WRs have too little impact on the game and too much of a chance of a bust to be worth a first round pick. Look at all the really good coaches...guys who are known as "gurus" and "icons". How often do they ever waste first round picks on WRs? I can't think of many. Hell, I don't think Belichick or Parcells either have EVER taken a WR round 1. ****tard organizations like the lions do it every year. That oughta tell you something.

Every year there are several Eddie Kennsison type guys available though. Guys who you thought were a bust that you can pick up for cheap. Charles Rogers is likely to be on that list next year. Freddie Mitchell is on it this year and so was Peter Warrick and a couple of other high profile guys. You never know with a guy(s) like that. As a WR nothing happens until someone throws you the ball. If you got a quarterback who doesn't like you and doesn't throw you the ball or can't throw you the ball (Peerless Price) then that might be a big reason why you've been labeled as a bust.

Chiefnj · 10-15-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

There are too many good WRs available every year in free agency that are too easy to get and young WRs have too little impact on the game and too much of a chance of a bust to be worth a first round pick. Look at all the really good coaches...guys who are known as "gurus" and "icons". How often do they ever waste first round picks on WRs? I can't think of many. Hell, I don't think Belichick or Parcells either have EVER taken a WR round 1. ****tard organizations like the lions do it every year. That oughta tell you something.

Every year there are several Eddie Kennsison type guys available though. Guys who you thought were a bust that you can pick up for cheap. Charles Rogers is likely to be on that list next year. Freddie Mitchell is on it this year. You never know with a guy like that. As a WR nothing happens until someone throws you the ball. If you got a quarterback who doesn't like you and doesn't throw you the ball then that might be a big reason why you've been labeled as a bust.

When Parcells was head coach they took Terry Glenn and Mark Ingram in the 1st. He's got a bunch of 2nd round WR's as well.

He took over the Jets the year after they drafted Keyshawn and grew fond of the guy, so much he brought him to Dallas.

RedThat · 10-15-2005, 10:09 AM

We should draft in this order next year:

RD 1. DT-Even despite the bad luck here, the Chiefs most definately have to take a Defensive tackle first, that is their biggest liability more than OL, and WR. It is so evident in all the games weve played this year, our defensive tackles get mauled at the line of scrimmage, and cant even establish a push up the middle. One of the reasons why our pass defense is not very good because it not only allows the QB time to throw, but, it allows the QB to step up and make a throw down field. This weakness outweighs OL, and WR. It also makes the addition of Patrick Surtain look not so good. We must address the D-Line issues first. It all starts with the DTs. Our ends are ok. It is the Defensive tackles that are not good. Draft a DT with passrushing abilitiy.

RD 2. WR-Sammie Parker is not looking so good right now. Even though their is still a long season ahead, and Im willing to give him time. His time to shine is now. Waay too many easy dropped passes. If he continues to drop passes, hes not the answer for the #2 WR position. It may be a wise choice to select a WR in rd 2 of the 2006 NFL draft.

RD 3. OT-Ok we are more than likely to lose Willie Roaf at the end of the season. If we can, Id prefer to sign an OT in free agency, then having to draft one. I think Jordan Black can be a fine player, not a Willie Roaf. I do have more confidence in him than I do in Sammie Parker, or Lional Dalton, John Browning. OT remains a concern, I still think OT doesnt outweigh our weaknesses at DT, and WR. DT and WR are GLARING weaknesses on this team, and we need to address them in the draft, or free agency next year.

Mr. Laz · 10-15-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

We should draft in this order next year:

RD 1. DT-Even despite the bad luck here, the Chiefs most definately have to take a Defensive tackle first, that is their biggest liability more than OL, and WR.

you think that DT is a bigger need than DE?

think about all the containment problems and lack of sacks from that position. The fact that Hicks is starting should just make most chiefs fans just wanna puke.

Doesn't look like Allen has improved much this year.

both DT and DE are needs ... imo DE is the bigger at the moment.

RedThat · 10-15-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

you think that DT is a bigger need than DE?

think about all the containment problems and lack of sacks from that position. The fact that Hicks is starting should just make most chiefs fans just wanna puke.

Doesn't look like Allen has improved much this year.

both DT and DE are needs ... imo DE is the bigger at the moment.

Umm yeah but not by much. Our DTs are weaker than DEs. Mind you that is not saying much. I can at least say, our DEs do try to get around, not by much, but they do try. Our DTs, just get mauled at the LOS.

I hear ya about Hicks. Im not a fan of him either. Hes pourous. I give Allen some credit, at least he tries, and has a motor. He does have 2 sacks this year. Should have 3, but, at least he is the only one on this line that has some fire, and passrush ability. I know our DEs are not that good at containment, I agree with you. Im in for a new DL overhaul

Mr. Laz · 10-15-2005, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Im in for a new DL overhaul

ILChief · 10-15-2005, 10:41 AM

i think we need a left tackle, defensive tackle, defensive end, and quarterback(not necessarily in that order) before a WR.

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10-15-2005, 04:31 AM	#35
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2667050	Tedd Ginn, Calvin Johnson and Dwayne Jarrett aren't draft eligible. Considering what this team is probably going to go through after this year. Overhaul of the coaching staff, purging of players to get under the cap and all of that. They should probably be taking best player available in every round, this team is going to have to go through a major rebuilding phase after this season.
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10-15-2005, 09:28 AM	#37
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10-15-2005, 09:41 AM	#38
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10-15-2005, 09:58 AM	#39
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	There are too many good WRs available every year in free agency that are too easy to get and young WRs have too little impact on the game and too much of a chance of a bust to be worth a first round pick. Look at all the really good coaches...guys who are known as "gurus" and "icons". How often do they ever waste first round picks on WRs? I can't think of many. Hell, I don't think Belichick or Parcells either have EVER taken a WR round 1. **tard organizations like the lions do it every year. That oughta tell you something. Every year there are several Eddie Kennsison type guys available though. Guys who you thought were a bust that you can pick up for cheap. Charles Rogers is likely to be on that list next year. Freddie Mitchell is on it this year and so was Peter Warrick and a couple of other high profile guys. You never know with a guy(s) like that. As a WR nothing happens until someone throws you the ball. If you got a quarterback who doesn't like you and doesn't throw you the ball or can't throw you the ball (Peerless Price) then that might be a big reason why you've been labeled as a bust. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott** agreed with" LOL
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10-15-2005, 10:09 AM	#41
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	We should draft in this order next year: RD 1. DT-Even despite the bad luck here, the Chiefs most definately have to take a Defensive tackle first, that is their biggest liability more than OL, and WR. It is so evident in all the games weve played this year, our defensive tackles get mauled at the line of scrimmage, and cant even establish a push up the middle. One of the reasons why our pass defense is not very good because it not only allows the QB time to throw, but, it allows the QB to step up and make a throw down field. This weakness outweighs OL, and WR. It also makes the addition of Patrick Surtain look not so good. We must address the D-Line issues first. It all starts with the DTs. Our ends are ok. It is the Defensive tackles that are not good. Draft a DT with passrushing abilitiy. RD 2. WR-Sammie Parker is not looking so good right now. Even though their is still a long season ahead, and Im willing to give him time. His time to shine is now. Waay too many easy dropped passes. If he continues to drop passes, hes not the answer for the #2 WR position. It may be a wise choice to select a WR in rd 2 of the 2006 NFL draft. RD 3. OT-Ok we are more than likely to lose Willie Roaf at the end of the season. If we can, Id prefer to sign an OT in free agency, then having to draft one. I think Jordan Black can be a fine player, not a Willie Roaf. I do have more confidence in him than I do in Sammie Parker, or Lional Dalton, John Browning. OT remains a concern, I still think OT doesnt outweigh our weaknesses at DT, and WR. DT and WR are GLARING weaknesses on this team, and we need to address them in the draft, or free agency next year.
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10-15-2005, 10:41 AM	#45
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