***BCS National Championship: Alabama vs Notre Dame***

[AussieChiefsFan]

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Good idea. But I think the NFL team would easily beat the College team each year.

That will always be the perception, but watching aj against the chiefs d, even in a loss could do more for his draft stock then even the combine

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

That will always be the perception, but watching aj against the chiefs d, even in a loss could do more for his draft stock then even the combine

Yea definately.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

But yea Id be great to watch.

Both teams have something to prove, better than the pro bowl. Look how off pundits were about nd keeping it close (sorry pesti) it just could be another tool for graders on both level.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

Both teams have something to prove, better than the pro bowl. Look how off pundits were about nd keeping it close (sorry pesti) it just could be another tool for graders on both level.

True. But if they're not playing for anything, it could have the same problem the pro bowl has.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

True. But if they're not playing for anything, it could have the same problem the pro bowl has.

I agree, not sure how to do that. I guess pride would be part of it, the college team wanting to beat an nfl team and the nfl team not wanting to be beat by a college team is a starting point. But an extra comp pick in the fourth or fifth for the pro team and funding for the college would be another point.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

I agree, not sure how to do that. I guess pride would be part of it, the college team wanting to beat an nfl team and the nfl team not wanting to be beat by a college team is a starting point.

Oh yea ofcourse, I didnt think of that.

But an extra comp pick in the fourth or fifth for the pro team and funding for the college would be another point.

Could also work.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

This game is just further proof of how idiotic the BCS system is.

Firstly, no more special treatment for Notre Dame, please. Yet again, they got their shit kicked in at a BCS bowl. They're now 0-4 all-time in BCS bowl games, losing those games by 32, 14, 27, and 28 respectively. As far as I'm concerned, either they join a conference, or they can play in the Toilet Bowl every year, because they've done nothing in the past 20+ years to prove they deserve special rules for them.

Secondly, can we now put the idea that Boise State, TCU, and Utah didn't deserve to play for a national title because "they would get blown off the field" to rest? At least they've proven themselves on the field over and over again against top-tier AQ opponents in the past decade, and two of the three have moved up to AQ conferences themselves. Notre Dame, meanwhile, wasn't even questioned on their way to the title game just because of their name and ultimately looked like a high school team out there. Enough of the hypocrisy, please.

And yes, I realize a four-team playoff is coming soon, but let's be real - it'll be the BCS all over again. We need a playoff system in which every FBS conference is represented in order for things to be truly fair.

No. Year after year the SEC has PROVEN that a "playoff" that is based solely upon conference winners and 1 team per conference would be worse than the current system. It should be the top 4 (or those who want a larger playoff, 8) teams regardless of conference affiliation. This year, prior to the bowls, teams #3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 weren't conference champs.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

For all the hate it gets, it seems to me that the BCS system gets the right champion every year with the best team. More than you can say for the crapshoot that is the NCAA tournament, anyway.

Yep.

[munkey]

Originally Posted by DomerNKC

are you on drugs? Notre Dame is treated by the other conferences as an equal. The other conferences choose to do that, its not special treatment. I understand that you don't understand their importance to the game, but i don't have the time or patience to educate you. There was no question on their way to the title game because they were undefeated in twelve games. They would not have had that opportunity if Oregon or K-State would have handled their business, it is not easy to run the table. No hypocrisy, as you say, an undefeated season against a real schedule. Utah went 5-7, you say that gets them into the championship? Boise state lost to Michigan State (which was beaten by Notre Dame) and San Diego State. BCS championship game for them? TCU 7-6, with losses to michigan state and Oklahoma (again both beaten by Notre Dame this season). Notre dame had not played like this all season. I have no idea why they looked like crap, they just did. it was embarrassing.
It is more a disadvantage to be an independent than to be in a conference and to say otherwise just shows your ignorance. Any team in the country can opt out of their conference any time they choose, it is a difficult path to take. there are no guarantees.
My favorite team got their collective tails handed to them tonight, no question about it. I should be the one upset about it, but you choose to use it as an opportunity to grind your idiot axe?

Your just butt hurt...eat a bag of dicks homer

[munkey]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

No. Year after year the SEC has PROVEN that a "playoff" that is based solely upon conference winners and 1 team per conference would be worse than the current system. It should be the top 4 (or those who want a larger playoff, 8) teams regardless of conference affiliation. This year, prior to the bowls, teams #3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 weren't conference champs.

Then they should simply go by each teams final season record? That's how ND got in right? Makes sense to me..

[DaKCMan AP]

Final polls

AP
1 Alabama*(59)
2 Oregon
3 Ohio State
4 Notre Dame
5 Georgia
5 Texas A&M
7 Stanford
8 South Carolina
9 Florida
10 Florida State
11 Clemson
12 Kansas State
13 Louisville
14 LSU
15 Oklahoma
16 Utah State
17 Northwestern
18 Boise State
19 Texas
20 Oregon State
21 San Jose State
22 Northern Illinois
23 Vanderbilt
24 Michigan
25 Nebraska

Coaches
1 Alabama*(56)
2 Oregon
3 Notre Dame
4 Georgia
5 Texas A&M
6 Stanford
7 South Carolina
8 Florida State
9 Clemson
10 Florida
11 Kansas State
12 LSU
13 Louisville
14 Boise State
15 Oklahoma
16 Northwestern
17 Utah State
18 Texas
19 Oregon State
20 Vanderbilt
21 San Jose State
22 Cincinnati
23 Nebraska
24 Northern Illinois
25 Tulsa

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by munkey

Then they should simply go by each teams final season record? That's how ND got in right? Makes sense to me..

What's your suggestion? To exclude teams that weren't conference champions so that weaker teams from weaker conferences can hold hands, sing kumbaya, and get destroyed in the playoff?

[TheGuardian]

Remember that thread where the SEC was overrated?

Suck it haters.

[Bob Dole]

Really shocked to wake up this morning and see who won. Gave up and went to bed at the half. *yawn*

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Final polls

AP
1 Alabama*(59)
2 Oregon
3 Ohio State
4 Notre Dame
5 Georgia
5 Texas A&M
7 Stanford
8 South Carolina
9 Florida
10 Florida State
11 Clemson
12 Kansas State
13 Louisville
14 LSU
15 Oklahoma
16 Utah State
17 Northwestern
18 Boise State
19 Texas
20 Oregon State
21 San Jose State
22 Northern Illinois
23 Vanderbilt
24 Michigan
25 Nebraska

Coaches
1 Alabama*(56)
2 Oregon
3 Notre Dame
4 Georgia
5 Texas A&M
6 Stanford
7 South Carolina
8 Florida State
9 Clemson
10 Florida
11 Kansas State
12 LSU
13 Louisville
14 Boise State
15 Oklahoma
16 Northwestern
17 Utah State
18 Texas
19 Oregon State
20 Vanderbilt
21 San Jose State
22 Cincinnati
23 Nebraska
24 Northern Illinois
25 Tulsa

Big 12 is better than SEC because Sagarin.

[Chiefnj2]

GA should be above ND.