Are the Chiefs the worst team in the division?

[Hammock Parties]

With the Raiders trading for Jason Campbell, and the Broncos having a solid draft that addressed needs at WR and OL, it certainly looks that way.

The Chiefs would have been swept by Oakland last year with better quarterback play.

At this point I don't see how anyone can sit there with a straight face and say the Raiders are not the 2nd best team in the AFC West. The Broncos are a mystery, but at least they don't have a hole on their team like, oh say, the worst front seven in the entire NFL.

Chiefs = AFC West cellar dwellers.

[Old Dog]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Only the new coaching staff will keep us from losing 12 again.

so you're guessing 3-13 I assume?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by orange

The question will be how many games the Chargers lose at the start before they get serious. Again.

At least the first game.

[The Bad Guy]

I'll be the minority, but I liked the draft and like the direction of this team.

This draft told me several things.

1) Glenn Dorsey is going to really play more NT than last year.
2) Derrick Johnson is absolutely starting next year.
3) The secondary is set for the next 5-10 years.
4) Brian Waters might be seeing his last year as a Chief

I'm not thrilled with the 2nd round, but I think those guys are going to help a lot. This team needs athletic players. Carr, Flowers and Arenas is a very good corner combo. Constantly putting Flowers on the slot receivers last year minimized his value on the outside. Now he can just lock up with the #1's.

Berry is going to be a monster as we all expect. He's going to lead, he's going to work his ass off. We have 2 stud playmakers in the secondary now.

The big thing for me is we finally have coaches who will coach up guys. Weis and Crennel are excellent teachers. We haven't had a defensive coordinator with a clue in about 20 years since Cowher left.

I'm really optimistic that we are moving in the right direction.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

We're not the worst, but I have NO faith in this team until Cassel is gone and the O-line gets younger.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Sanka

Im hoping for an 0-16 season, the quicker Pioli fails the quicker shitface will be gone.

And who will you replace him with you ****ing moron !!!!

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by orange

The question will be how many games the Chargers lose at the start before they get serious. Again.

You mean how many games until the Beast is awoken? No one is safe this year.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Only the new coaching staff will keep us from losing 12 again.

Look at this MFing LB corps. Hell, even the D-Line is still a complete piece of crap.

The O-line is the only thing we really addressed....

You know, I really think the D took alot of the blame for things that were not in their control. The lack of 1st down generation by the offense led to them playing a LOT more time on the field...Which led to break downs in the second half. I am not trying to make excuses but I think that even the slight improvement of the offensive line will reap rewards on the other side of the ball...It is a lot easier to play solid defense and put pressure on the QB when you aren't winded and playing 40+ minutes per game.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by truebigdog

so you're guessing 3-13 I assume?

With this schedule, I think they will probably go 5-11 or 6-10.

And without a ****wit GM, they'd have been able to go no worse than 10-6.

It's one of the softest schedules I've ever seen.

[chiefforlife]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I'll be the minority, but I liked the draft and like the direction of this team.

This draft told me several things.

1) Glenn Dorsey is going to really play more NT than last year.
2) Derrick Johnson is absolutely starting next year.
3) The secondary is set for the next 5-10 years.
4) Brian Waters might be seeing his last year as a Chief

I'm not thrilled with the 2nd round, but I think those guys are going to help a lot. This team needs athletic players. Carr, Flowers and Arenas is a very good corner combo. Constantly putting Flowers on the slot receivers last year minimized his value on the outside. Now he can just lock up with the #1's.

Berry is going to be a monster as we all expect. He's going to lead, he's going to work his ass off. We have 2 stud playmakers in the secondary now.

The big thing for me is we finally have coaches who will coach up guys. Weis and Crennel are excellent teachers. We haven't had a defensive coordinator with a clue in about 20 years since Cowher left.

I'm really optimistic that we are moving in the right direction.

Good post from a Bad guy.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by YOUCANTKILLROR

We're not the worst, but I have NO faith in this team until Cassel is gone and the O-line gets younger.

I think they are moving in the right direction with youth.

Albert, Asamoah and Lilja are all going to be fixtures moving forward on this line.

Waters and Weigmann are in their last years.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Good post from a Bad guy.

Actually I agree!

[FD]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

You know, I really think the D took alot of the blame for things that were not in their control. The lack of 1st down generation by the offense led to them playing a LOT more time on the field...Which led to break downs in the second half. I am not trying to make excuses but I think that even the slight improvement of the offensive line will reap rewards on the other side of the ball...It is a lot easier to play solid defense and put pressure on the QB when you aren't winded and playing 40+ minutes per game.

Its true. Most of last season the offense was:

1) LJ run into back of own blocker, fall down.
2) LJ run into back of own blocker, fall down.
3) Bad pass/dropped pass.
4) Punt

Like clockwork.

[The Bad Guy]

I also think Scott Pioli will be here as long as he wants.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I also think Scott Pioli will be here as long as he wants.

That is certainly reassuring, nice to see we have such awesome ownership.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

You know, I really think the D took alot of the blame for things that were not in their control. The lack of 1st down generation by the offense led to them playing a LOT more time on the field...Which led to break downs in the second half. I am not trying to make excuses but I think that even the slight improvement of the offensive line will reap rewards on the other side of the ball...It is a lot easier to play solid defense and put pressure on the QB when you aren't winded and playing 40+ minutes per game.

Sorry, but we run a 3-4 with no discernable talent at LB.

The defense took the appropriate amount of heat. Watching Cory Mays literally jump out of the lane that the RB was going through, then seeing Vrabel trail 5 steps behind the play, then finally seeing Mike Brown bounce of the RB...ugh, I can't get it out of my head.

And we'll see Mays and Vrabel starting again this year. It's the backbone of our scheme and it's an absolute trainwreck.

That defense is terrible. In 2003 it was "the O was too good so the D looked bad", last year it was "the O was too bad, so the D looked worse". Let's face it - those defenses were F'ing awful and no offense in the world would've changed that.