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Old 01-01-2014, 07:34 PM  
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*.* 2014 General Fitness Thread *.*
Welcome to 2014! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

No one else started it so here it is!

**From the 2013 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.
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Old 03-22-2014, 08:50 PM   #706
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Have an extra scoop of protein on your special day!
Screw protein. I'm eating cake.
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Old 03-22-2014, 08:52 PM   #707
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In some cases, yes. But we are very careful about how we treat older guys with TRT, and that's a clinical cost-benefit conversation that physicians have with their patients. All urologists know a **** ton more about that than I, though.

The idea behind methyl is that it is chemically altered at the 17 alkyl position to inhibit metabolism and allow it to be effective orally. The problem, however, is that 17-alkyl modification is extremely toxic to hepatocytes. We don't have this problem with the creams and depo preps because they are unaltered testosterone and testosterone esters that don't have the same modification. Thus, methyltestoterone is clinically useless.


However, back to the supplement industry, the money is probably there. The incentive, however, is not. That stems mainly from their average consumer not giving a ****.
And that's why I sale a shit ton of Tudca
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:06 PM   #708
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And that's why I sale a shit ton of Tudca
What is the mechanism of tudca? How is it absorbed? How does it get to its site of action? How is dosing determined? What if it isn't orally effective, and degraded by gastric enzymes and/or altered to an inactive form in the blood stream? These people just blasted their livers with crap, and yet these key questions probably haven't been answered.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:22 PM   #709
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What is the mechanism of tudca? How is it absorbed? How does it get to its site of action? How is dosing determined? What if it isn't orally effective, and degraded by gastric enzymes and/or altered to an inactive form in the blood stream? These people just blasted their livers with crap, and yet these key questions probably haven't been answered.
Google is your friend. I've seen many people run methly steroids along with Tudca and have unchanged liver values. There are some legit studys on it.
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here I am post workout


You need to throw in a few more leg days.
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6x?? Good God man.

I have a hard time keeping motivation. It's as if I get bored at the gym after awhile.
I'm at the gym everyday. It's more habit than anything now. I do weight training five days. The other two are cardio or just taking a little more time than usual trying to get a few new things I've learned down.

I find it hard to NOT be motivated at the gym. I have a million and thirty reasons for going. If I've had a bad or frustrating day, it helps. If I'm in a good mood, it only enhances it. I always have a sense of having accomplished something when I leave the gym, and I love that feeling.
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I'm at the gym everyday. It's more habit than anything now. I do weight training five days. The other two are cardio or just taking a little more time than usual trying to get a few new things I've learned down.

I find it hard to NOT be motivated at the gym. I have a million and thirty reasons for going. If I've had a bad or frustrating day, it helps. If I'm in a good mood, it only enhances it. I always have a sense of having accomplished something when I leave the gym, and I love that feeling.
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Google is your friend. I've seen many people run methly steroids along with Tudca and have unchanged liver values. There are some legit studys on it.
What? You, personally, check liver enzymes on these people? Or they get CMP's often?

I was honestly asking you because I've never heard of tudca. I wanted to know what it was and how it worked. I guess I can google it, but i assumed you knew since you sell it.
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What? You, personally, check liver enzymes on these people? Or they get CMP's often?

I was honestly asking you because I've never heard of tudca. I wanted to know what it was and how it worked. I guess I can google it, but i assumed you knew since you sell it.
I guess I could have posted some links but was watching St Joe LHS blow a 14 point league in the title game when you rattled off those questions. I sale over a hundred items as an online retail store but I don't know everything about every item. That's more of the job of the company reps and formulators. I'm not going to pretend to be Patrick Arnold. I just don't have that educational background that some of those guys do.

There are many people that will have pre and post blood work done and post it online after trying certain things. Obviously you would like more evidence but it beats " I think I had more energy or more strength or was able to focus more... Etc" that you usually get from product reviews.
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Interesting product I mentioned awhile back as a Test Booster. Apparently a Gaspari Rep ran it and it raised his total T 500 points. That's pretty significant if true.

http://store.lockoutforums.com/index...cts_id=2002935
That would be HUGE if true. What dose did he run that at?
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That would be HUGE if true. What dose did he run that at?
I would wait for some real world logs to pop up where guys are getting actual bloodwork done before and after. Laxogenin has showed its face in many other brand's products and has been underwhelming to say the least.
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I would wait for some real world logs to pop up where guys are getting actual bloodwork done before and after. Laxogenin has showed its face in many other brand's products and has been underwhelming to say the least.
This is supposedly a more pure form of Laxogenin than what other companies have used in the past. I'd like to see more bloodwork as well though.
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