Ravens cry foul over noncall on final play of loss to Chiefs

[Hammock Parties]

BITTER RATBIRDS

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...209-story.html

As Ravens quarterback Robert Griffin III dropped back to pass on what proved to be the final play of Sunday’s game, the odds were not good.

The Ravens were down a field goal in overtime. Starting quarterback Lamar Jackson was out with an ankle injury. Under two minutes remained. The team faced a fourth-and-22 from its 41-yard line. According to ESPN, the Kansas City Chiefs’ win probability was over 79 percent.

But after the pass fell incomplete and the 27-24 overtime loss was sealed, the Ravens were unhappy the game hadn’t lasted at least a play longer. Coach John Harbaugh, wide receiver Willie Snead IV and Griffin said the officials missed a pass-interference penalty on Chiefs cornerback and Baltimore native Kendall Fuller.

The penalty would’ve produced an automatic Ravens first down and kept alive their hopes for a game-tying field goal or game-winning touchdown.

“Yeah, I saw it,” Harbaugh said. “I think you guys should write what you see. You want us to get up here and criticize the officiating. You saw the officiating all day. You know what it was. You should write what you see. You don’t get fined for it, right?” (Coaches are subject to NFL fines for criticism of the officiating.)

Griffin said he didn’t have a chance to warm up before entering the game facing a third-and-22. His first throw was an incompletion, and after Jackson did not return to the huddle, the team’s third-string quarterback dropped back one final time.

He targeted Snead, running an out-breaking route close to the line to gain. “I was like, ‘I got a chance here,’ ” Snead recalled thinking. Had he made a sixth catch Sunday, the reception might have come up just short of the 37-yard line he needed to reach.

But he said he felt premature contact from Fuller, and Griffin saw the same.

“I mean, of course I did,” said Snead, who had a team-high 61 yards. “I thought that. At the end of the day, it’s out of my control. I got to catch the ball, but I felt like I would’ve been short anyways, but at the end of the day, there was contact. But it is what it is. You just got to learn from it and move on.”

He added: “There were calls we could’ve got all over the game, but at the end of the day, it came down to that play. I didn’t get the call. At the end of the day, I didn’t get the catch.”

Griffin, who said he hadn’t been able to watch a replay of the coverage, blamed himself for not throwing a better pass. But he pointed to the Ravens’ indignant sideline reaction as a reflection of his own perception of the noncall.

“I felt like Willie ran a great route and the DB got there a little early, and they didn't call it,” Griffin said. “It makes me feel a little bad. I feel like I let the team down in that situation. I was ready to go and I tried to do the best I could at that time. Just wish I could've done more."

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you want to see a real push off, go watch Michael Irvin's touchdown catch over Dale Carter in the '95 Thanksgiving game. If you want to see "push offs" that weren't, but were flagged as such, go look up what happened to Gonzalez in '03 against the Colts or look at that penalty on Crabtree yesterday.

Dude, why? I had moved past that.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Romo, who is about as objective as it gets, called it a bad call. I suppose you both think that Fisher should have been flagged for holding in the playoff game against the Steelers then, right?

He said it was a bad call because they rarely call it, not because he didn't actually push off. He said, "Eh...I don't know about that blah blah blah."

I did say it was pretty ticky tack but we've seen that shit go against us plenty of times (03 playoff game was far less egregious than yesterday). If they hadn't called it, I wouldn't be complaining either. But to argue that he didn't actually push off is silly. You need to argue that they never call it, so they shouldn't have called it.

[WhawhaWhat]

Same old loser fans in Baltimore. They cried when the Royals kicked the Orioles ass in 2014 and they're crying now. That fan base deserves the losses. **** them.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you want to see a real push off, go watch Michael Irvin's touchdown catch over Dale Carter in the '95 Thanksgiving game. If you want to see "push offs" that weren't, but were flagged as such, go look up what happened to Gonzalez in '03 against the Colts or look at that penalty on Crabtree yesterday.

So you think it was ticky tack. Fine. I’m cool with that. That doesn’t change that there was a little bit of a push with the extension of his arms whether you want to admit it or not.

The “block in the back” and that play cancelled eachother out anyways.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by bobbything

He said it was a bad call because they rarely call it, not because he didn't actually push off. He said, "Eh...I don't know about that blah blah blah."

I did say it was pretty ticky tack but we've seen that shit go against us plenty of times (03 playoff game was far less egregious than yesterday). If they hadn't called it, I wouldn't be complaining either. But to argue that he didn't actually push off is silly. You need to argue that they never call it, so they shouldn't have called it.

Because there's a difference between actually pushing off and what you're claiming is a push off.

Go to :39 of this video. That's a push off because, as the NFL's own network states, it, "significantly hinders an eligible receiver's attempt to catch the ball." What Crabtree did is not precisely because it didn't.

[Titty Meat]

The stupid push off on Crabtree yesterday is karma from his obvious push off never called in the TNF game last year

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because there's a difference between actually pushing off and what you're claiming is a push off.

Go to :39 of this video. That's a push off because, as the NFL's own network states, it, "significantly hinders an eligible receiver's attempt to catch the ball." What Crabtree did is not precisely because it didn't.

Ugh...fine. I tap out.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

The stupid push off on Crabtree yesterday is karma from his obvious push off never called in the TNF game last year

That's fair.

[kccrow]

Crabtree pushes off all the time to create separation for himself. He pushed off when he was called for it again yesterday. How hard he pushed off is irrelevant, he still did it. It gained him enough separation to catch the ball and ensure the defender couldn't stop it. It's OPI all day long. The unfortunate truth is the NFL doesn't call OPI but 1% of the time it's actually committed, which is what causes bullshit to begin with. I wouldn't care as much if they didn't call DPI 99% of the time.

Fuller got away with DPI by the way and I was just waiting for the flag. Chiefs caught a rare break. The Ravens' dipshit fans should really watch some KC games before having the balls to think that KC gets calls in their favor regularly.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Remember that sketchy 'block in the back' that ended a drive for KC?

One hand in front, the other touched the back and he didn't actually redirect the player in any way.

The call on Crabtree was far closer to an actual penalty than that was. IF anything that needs to be called more often. I've seen multiple times this year where a WR pushes off and they flag the DB for... being pushed off on. That's normal in today's NFL, and given how DB's are policed it's complete bullshit how often WR's get away with it.

That's a lot of why DeAndre Hopkins is so good, he physically mauls DB's who aren't allowed to do anything back.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Crabtree pushes off all the time to create separation for himself. He pushed off when he was called for it again yesterday. How hard he pushed off is irrelevant, he still did it. It gained him enough separation to catch the ball and ensure the defender couldn't stop it. It's OPI all day long. The unfortunate truth is the NFL doesn't call OPI but 1% of the time it's actually committed, which is what causes bullshit to begin with. I wouldn't care as much if they didn't call DPI 99% of the time.

Fuller got away with DPI by the way and I was just waiting for the flag. Chiefs caught a rare break. The Ravens' dipshit fans should really watch some KC games before having the balls to think that KC gets calls in their favor regularly.

This.

The reason Crabtree got called for OPI, even though he didn't really do anything other than extend his arm, is because Crabtree pushes off ALL THE TIME. He's made a career of pushing off to get separation. He does it nearly every game.

He basically got Dennis Rodman'd yesterday. You live by it, eventually you die by it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This.

The reason Crabtree got called for OPI, even though he didn't really do anything other than extend his arm, is because Crabtree pushes off ALL THE TIME. He's made a career of pushing off to get separation. He does it nearly every game.

He basically got Dennis Rodman'd yesterday. You live by it, eventually you die by it.

I have no problem with this POV.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

This.

The reason Crabtree got called for OPI, even though he didn't really do anything other than extend his arm, is because Crabtree pushes off ALL THE TIME. He's made a career of pushing off to get separation. He does it nearly every game.

He basically got Dennis Rodman'd yesterday. You live by it, eventually you die by it.

It really is a good point.

[O.city]

You wanna come at a Chiefs fan and talk about getting ****ed by officiating? Yeah, that's gonna fall on deaf ears.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by O.city

The grabby and physical Ravens are whining about not getting a pass interference call?

Yeah, I'm here for that.

I'm also here to tell them to go **** themselves. They hit our QB late a few times, didn't get flagged. They held Tyreek on a double move, didn't get called.

This.