Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 47

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

DJ's left nut · 05-11-2013, 02:33 PM

Clean single on a cutter that got too much of the zone. No complaints there.

Mi_chief_fan · 05-11-2013, 02:36 PM

Didn't seem to bother him much, that's all they got off him. Back to back 1 hitters would still be impressive

**chefsos** · 05-11-2013, 02:47 PM

So, the Rockies went 17 1/3 innings between hits. Could your starters own them just a little more? Jesus, that's dominant.

Jewish Rabbi · 05-11-2013, 02:57 PM

It appears that Wainwright and Miller have figured out how to fix the bullpen.

Frazod · 05-11-2013, 02:59 PM

23-12. Can't argue with that.

DJ's left nut · 05-11-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

23-12. Can't argue with that.

Best record in baseball after playing about 2/3 of their season on the road thus far.

It's hard to !@#$ up starting pitching that's a full run better than the 2nd best staff in the league.

Mi_chief_fan · 05-11-2013, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

It appears that Wainwright and Miller have figured out how to fix the bullpen.

Who's this Jason Motte again?

**BigRedChief** · 05-11-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Best record in baseball after playing about 2/3 of their season on the road thus far.

It's hard to !@#$ up starting pitching that's a full run better than the 2nd best staff in the league.

Saw a graphic on last nights broadcast. We have signed or drafted 32 players that have made it to the major leagues since 2006. Best in baseball. 4th place was 22 players. This team is doing a whole bunch of things right. Suppose to be a transition year and right now we are the best team in baseball.

Like Hamas said, it is quite refreshing to be a fan if a team with a competent front office.

Pasta Little Brioni · 05-11-2013, 05:26 PM

This starting staff is just ridiculous

Pepe Silvia · 05-11-2013, 09:07 PM

I love Wainwright. Man the starting rotation has gotten out to a sick start this year. Its been a while since its be good that early if I'm not mistaken. They were saying the Reds have the best staff in the central, not so fast bitches.

Jewish Rabbi · 05-11-2013, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Saw a graphic on last nights broadcast. We have signed or drafted 32 players that have made it to the major leagues since 2006. Best in baseball. 4th place was 22 players. This team is doing a whole bunch of things right. Suppose to be a transition year and right now we are the best team in baseball.

Like Hamas said, it is quite refreshing to be a fan if a team with a competent front office.

You say every year is a transition year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-11-2013, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Saw a graphic on last nights broadcast. We have signed or drafted 32 players that have made it to the major leagues since 2006. Best in baseball. 4th place was 22 players. This team is doing a whole bunch of things right. Suppose to be a transition year and right now we are the best team in baseball.

Like Hamas said, it is quite refreshing to be a fan if a team with a competent front office.

It's not just the front office; it's the entire organization. The Cardinals are essentially the polar opposite of the Chiefs. They draft and develop elite, cost-controlled talent, they make serious maneuvers to compete deep into the post-season, they have an engaged owner who is neither aloof nor meddlesome, and they have a consistent organizational narrative that the fans, coaches, and players all believe in.

Rams Fan · 05-12-2013, 11:59 AM

Gast to start Tuesday, Westbrook on the DL with elbow inflammation.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-12-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Gast to start Tuesday, Westbrook on the DL with elbow inflammation.

****. Westbrook has been lucky (and solid) this year. Good idea to save Wacha, though.

Rams Fan · 05-12-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

****. Westbrook has been lucky (and solid) this year. Good idea to save Wacha, though.

Mo only expects him to miss two starts.

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