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Old 05-31-2007, 09:39 AM  
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Tod Wellemyer Slams Royals....

am listening to 810 I guess Wellemyer gave an inteview in St. Louis and when asked what the difference between playing for KC and STL he said "the expectaion in KC as that you keep your job the expectation in STL is you have to perform well"


Granted I think that was more of the Baird attitude I see that more and more in Bell publicly anyway.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:07 AM   #16
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You guys are on crack. The team is not playing well, but you know what - they have sucked for 15 YEARS. More or less, 20 YEARS. Buddy Bell has only presided over, what, 1/8th of our run of suckage? 1/10th of it?

We've had 5 or 6 different managers, 3 general managers, countless pitching coaches and hitting coaches and bench coaches. Everything has turned over again and again and the same thing keeps happening. The Royals have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the reason for failure is TALENT. We are poor at identifying and procuring talent. That's the problem.

Yes, this may come as a surprise, but you can't win with no talent. You can't hit home runs with no power hitters, you don't steal bases without any base stealers, you don't get hits with guys like Joey Gathright, you don't get strikeouts or save games with guys like Todd Wellemeyer. There is no manager alive that could win with this team because there's no talent yet. There is the possibility of talent in the future, but there isn't any now. Dropping Joe Torre's flabby ass in that dugout isn't going to make a damn bit of difference.

I realize that people just want to bitch about something and blame someone, but the fact is that it's going to take Dayton Moore more than one year to rebuild the team, and he realizes that Buddy Bell doesn't have any bullets in his gun, and that's why he is still here.

You can claim that the manager is the problem, or the pitching coach or the hitting coach is the problem, but the facts over TWO DECADES of change for the sake of change make you look stupid.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:09 AM   #17
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You guys are on crack. The team is not playing well, but you know what - they have sucked for 15 YEARS. More or less, 20 YEARS. Buddy Bell has only presided over, what, 1/8th of our run of suckage? 1/10th of it?

We've had 5 or 6 different managers, 3 general managers, countless pitching coaches and hitting coaches and bench coaches. Everything has turned over again and again and the same thing keeps happening. The Royals have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the reason for failure is TALENT. We are poor at identifying and procuring talent. That's the problem.

Yes, this may come as a surprise, but you can't win with no talent. You can't hit home runs with no power hitters, you don't steal bases without any base stealers, you don't get hits with guys like Joey Gathright, you don't get strikeouts or save games with guys like Todd Wellemeyer. There is no manager alive that could win with this team because there's no talent yet. There is the possibility of talent in the future, but there isn't any now.

I realize that people just want to bitch about something and blame someone, but the fact is that it's going to take Dayton Moore more than one year to rebuild the team, and he realizes that Buddy Bell doesn't have any bullets in his gun, and that's why he is still here.

You can claim that the manager is the problem, or the pitching coach or the hitting coach is the problem, but the facts over the past decade make you look stupid.

I think the manager is the attitude problem honestly. I don't care what sport you are in your team will reflect the attitude if nothing else of their head coach...and you kow this MAN!
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:11 AM   #18
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I think the manager is the attitude problem honestly. I don't care what sport you are in your team will reflect the attitude if nothing else of their head coach...and you kow this MAN!
Yeah, attitude is the problem, not a total dearth of talent. If only we had attitude guys like .240 hitting Aaron Guiel, then we would be in great shape.

Attitude doesn't change who you are. I can dress up like Superman and run around even believing that I am Superman all day long, but if I jump off my roof I'm still going to break my effing neck.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:12 AM   #19
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You guys are on crack. The team is not playing well, but you know what - they have sucked for 15 YEARS. More or less, 20 YEARS. Buddy Bell has only presided over, what, 1/8th of our run of suckage? 1/10th of it?

We've had 5 or 6 different managers, 3 general managers, countless pitching coaches and hitting coaches and bench coaches. Everything has turned over again and again and the same thing keeps happening. The Royals have proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the reason for failure is TALENT. We are poor at identifying and procuring talent. That's the problem.

Yes, this may come as a surprise, but you can't win with no talent. You can't hit home runs with no power hitters, you don't steal bases without any base stealers, you don't get hits with guys like Joey Gathright, you don't get strikeouts or save games with guys like Todd Wellemeyer. There is no manager alive that could win with this team because there's no talent yet. There is the possibility of talent in the future, but there isn't any now. Dropping Joe Torre's flabby ass in that dugout isn't going to make a damn bit of difference.

I realize that people just want to bitch about something and blame someone, but the fact is that it's going to take Dayton Moore more than one year to rebuild the team, and he realizes that Buddy Bell doesn't have any bullets in his gun, and that's why he is still here.

You can claim that the manager is the problem, or the pitching coach or the hitting coach is the problem, but the facts over TWO DECADES of change for the sake of change make you look stupid.
The single biggest reason for the Royals failures the past 15 years or so, is their inability to develop pitching. Starters and closers. They have had some decent hitting lineups over the years.


We havent developed one single in house starting pitcher who was a consistent winner since Appier.

Thats pathetic.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:17 AM   #20
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The single biggest reason for the Royals failures the past 15 years or so, is their inability to develop pitching. Starters and closers. They have had some decent hitting lineups over the years.


We havent developed one single in house starting pitcher who was a consistent winner since Appier.

Thats pathetic.
It was, like I said, a poor job of identifying, procuring - and also, developing - talent.

We picked guys with big arms who were projects. We picked big, hard-throwing guys like Colt Griffin. We went through a soft-throwing lefty phase. We picked guys who had only pitched for a year or two.

We never were after 'stuff' guys. We were never after 'control' guys. It was an errant philosophy. We need pitchers. Not guys who dazzle the radar gun. Guys who can pitch.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:26 AM   #21
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The Cards are playing very well this season, Todd
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:43 AM   #22
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I still remember when bell was first hired, and how sleepy he looked during the press conference. Reminds me of Major League, that coach "shutup dorn"
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:52 AM   #23
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The Royals still only have three fewer wins than the Yankees with one-fifth the payroll.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:59 AM   #24
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Cards will see how he does. Maybe it's a change of scenery. Dave Duncan may fix him. Or maybe he's a bum.

Keeping the ball in the yard in Colorado. Ok for first outing.

Starts against better teams ??? I'd say now work in progress.
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The Royals still only have three fewer wins than the Yankees with one-fifth the payroll.
That's right! They are the same team! Equally as good! Print 'em!!!
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Who would we really hire as a manager anyway right now?
The Royals real problem is talent and it contiues to be. If the talent isn't there, which it's not, it doesn't matter where the manager puts them on the field.

They just aint good enough.
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