A little Rumor Mill from DraftCountdown...

[Coogs]

...some of this could help us out in a trade down scenario.


Here is the stuff...

April 14, 2005


• There is growing speculation that the Miami Dolphins are more than a little eager to trade down from the #2 overall pick and may be willing to do it for less than you would expect. The most likely suitor at this point appears to be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who may have their sights set on Auburn RB Ronnie Brown, Cal QB Aaron Rodgers or Utah QB Alex Smith. On that note, don't look for either of the signal callers to freefall if either San Francisco or Cleveland pass on them as some have suggested, there are plenty of teams in the top ten interested in them. Look for there to be a lot of talk in the final week before the draft about Miami at #2 and Cleveland at #3 moving down and don't be surprised if both eventually do when all is said and done.



• The hottest player in the draft may be Troy DE Demarcus Ware, who now looks like a legitimate Top 15-20 pick. In fact, there is talk that Dallas has really taken a liking to the pass rusher and may prefer him to Shawne Merriman. San Diego at #12 and Houston at #13 are also very interested in Ware and two teams, Atlanta and Philadelphia, are reportedly interested in moving up for a shot at him.



• Perhaps one of the most controversial players in this draft is Florida St. OT Alex Barron and if you ask ten people about his draft forcast you may get ten different answers. He could go as high as #6 to Tennessee or fall as far as Houston at #13 or Carolina at #14. With the lack of elite left tackle prospects this year it is hard to imagine someone not gambling on his potential greatness earlier than expected.



• Look for Arizona and Buffalo to ultimately consummate the deal to send OT L.J. Shelton to the Bills in exchange for RB Travis Henry but it may not happen until Draft Day. This is basically a game of chicken with both teams wanting to trade to happen but each angling for a little more since it doesn't hurt them to wait another week. Once this trade goes through watch for Arizona to focus on a cornerback with the #8 overall pick with Antrel Rolle reportedly being the guy they covet.

[BigChiefFan]

Last night Drew Rosenhaus said the Cowboys are interested in Dan Cody. Probably just him talking up his client, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

[Coogs]

In a trade with Atlanta, we might could get #27 and #59.

Send 59 to Maimi for Surtain.
Use 27 and 46 for best two defensive players on the board.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Coogs

In a trade with Atlanta, we might could get #27 and #59.

Send 59 to Maimi for Surtain.
Use 27 and 46 for best two defensive players on the board.

Coogs, I think we are better served staying put with the 15th overall pick and picking up a quality player. Then when we are on the clock in the 2nd round, trade down, and use one of the newly acquired picks in a trade down to send for Surtain.

[Coogs]

Potential CB's in that area

Jackson
Miller
Webster
Washington

LB's in that area

Blackstock
Barnett
Thurman
Rudd
Crowder

DE's

Roth
Tuck

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Coogs, I think we are better served staying put with the 15th overall pick and picking up a quality player. Then when we are on the clock in the 2nd round, trade down, and use one of the newly acquired picks in a trade down to send for Surtain.

Possibly.

[TRR]

I believe Marlin Jackson has a very bright future in the NFL. Very good size and speed, and he loves to tackle.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Potential CB's in that area

Jackson
Miller
Webster
Washington

LB's in that area

Blackstock
Barnett
Thurman
Rudd
Crowder

DE's

Roth
Tuck

Odell Thurman is staying at school.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Odell Thurman is staying at school.

Is that right? Someone needs to tell that to all the draft sites if so, because they all have him in their mock drafts.

[tyton75]

IMO, we need TALENT on Defense... and we are going to get a much more talented guy at 15.. than at 27....

Its really hard to miss on a defensive player at 15. (not that it can't happen) but its much easier to miss on a defensive guy at 27

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by tyton75

IMO, we need TALENT on Defense... and we are going to get a much more talented guy at 15.. than at 27....

Its really hard to miss on a defensive player at 15. (not that it can't happen) but its much easier to miss on a defensive guy at 27

I disagree that we may get much more talent at 15 than at 27. I don't think a Jackson or Webster is that much different than a Rogers. But that is JMO.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by tyton75

IMO, we need TALENT on Defense... and we are going to get a much more talented guy at 15.. than at 27....

Its really hard to miss on a defensive player at 15. (not that it can't happen) but its much easier to miss on a defensive guy at 27

And talent at 15 would have to include Thomas Davis from Georgia. Personally, I would love the pick, but I suspect most here would not. Three of the biggest impact players drafted the last few years on defense have been Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, and Sean Taylor. All safties. A secondary of Surtain, Warfield, Knight, and Davis would shore up one of our weak areas big time.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Coogs, I think we are better served staying put with the 15th overall pick and picking up a quality player. Then when we are on the clock in the 2nd round, trade down, and use one of the newly acquired picks in a trade down to send for Surtain.

A little history review here on Carl..........

How often does he get his # 1 pick signed and in camp on time to contribute ? Not often at all because he doesn't want to shell out the cash.

How often does our # 2 picks work out? Less than our # 1 picks.....

( Rodney Dangerfield voice ) We're doomed I tell ya..................doomed .
Best case, trade down, get extra picks, esp.with one of them a # 2 and send to Miami.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

A little history review here on Carl..........

How often does he get his # 1 pick signed and in camp on time to contribute ? Not often at all because he doesn't want to shell out the cash.

How often does our # 2 picks work out? Less than our # 1 picks.....

( Rodney Dangerfield voice ) We're doomed I tell ya..................doomed .
Best case, trade down, get extra picks, esp.with one of them a # 2 and send to Miami.

Still doesn't change, I think we need to stay put at 15 and use the 2nd rounder to trade down, to give the fins their pick. Why give up a HIGH second rounder, when we don't have to? We can still give them their precious 2nd rounder and pick up and additional pick to help us as well.

[buddha]

The Chiefs should just stay put and see who is there at their pick. With guys like Ware getting hot all of a sudden, that bodes well for somebody we wanted more drifting down the draft board to our slot. I've never understood how a few individual workouts could significantly help a guy. You can look at his game tapes, see what level he plays at, and make a decent evaluation. Ware would be a very nice high second round pick, but he's not an elite level player IMHO. That's what a top 15 pick has to be.