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Old 01-18-2013, 12:49 PM  
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@nfldraftscout (Matt Miller) will be on 610 from 1-2

Matt is from Bleacher Report and is one of the guys that has Geno going first to KC. Should be a good listen
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:11 PM   #61
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Did you watch the game last week?

Those 16 fourth quarter comebacks and 23 game winning drives are NFL stats. Not ACC stats.
I admittedly don't watch the Falcons week after week and am surprised to see those stats (although I think "game-winning drives" is just as dumb a stat as "game-winning RBI").

But the guy has been part of a team that consistently gets Marty Schottenheimered (i.e. losing their first game) in the playoffs.

Takes some shine off his big-game rep.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:11 PM   #62
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Matt Ryan's other performances you ****ing dip shit.
Yes, I did. I watched the loss in Arizona and the loss in NY. He has shown he can do it in college and in the pros. It was no suprise when he finally led the comeback last week.

You know what Tom Brady and Russell Wilson did great in college? They led 4th quarter comebacks. It shows up in the NFL.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:13 PM   #63
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Yes, I did. I watched the loss in Arizona and the loss in NY. He has shown he can do it in college and in the pros. It was no suprise when he finally led the comeback last week.

You know what Tom Brady and Russell Wilson did great in college? They led 4th quarter comebacks. It shows up in the NFL.
So did Tim Tebow
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:16 PM   #64
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The one where Flacco lead the Ravens back in the 4th? It's important man and it seems to come down to the end 50% of the time. We need a guy who can carry the team when the game is on the line. We need a guy who can make the play when it must be made. For me, that is the difference between Wilson and Geno. Wilson has done it much more often that Geno.
So let me get this straight.. You're saying draft Wilson because he's more flacco, Not Smith because he's more Rodgers?

You would rather have Joe Flacco as your QB than Aaron Rodgers?

And you're saying this with a straight face?
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:19 PM   #65
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people on here are way smarter and more knowledgeable about the entire scope of the NFL than those **** writers at Bleacher Report.

it's not even close. If this forum turned into a CMS that produced articles by users it would end being much more credible than Bleacher imo.
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people on here are way smarter and more knowledgeable about the entire scope of the NFL than those **** writers at Bleacher Report.

it's not even close. If this forum turned into a CMS that produced articles by users it would end being much more credible than Bleacher imo.
There are around 6 or 7 people here on CP who I'm pretty sure could sit down together and come up with a draft that would be better than any draft a team will have this year.

Yet, bleacher report is what some decide to treat as gospel, because a guy who can't get a job as a pro scout says something.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:22 PM   #68
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So let me get this straight.. You're saying draft Wilson because he's more flacco, Not Smith because he's more Rodgers?

You would rather have Joe Flacco as your QB than Aaron Rodgers?

And you're saying this with a straight face?
That's not what I am saying at all. I am saying draft a QB that has the skillset and has won the close ones and come through when it counted. Draft a QB that looks like he can develop into someone as good as Joe Flacco is NOW.

I'm saying if Reid and Dorsey think they can get one of the two (Geno or Wilson) in 20s on up in the first, then wait and do it. If that's the case, I think they will.

Our second and third round picks are good ones and most of those teams in the 20's have QBs. Someone like the Saints who lost draft picks might be willing to trade.
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:22 PM   #69
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There are around 6 or 7 people here on CP who I'm pretty sure could sit down together and come up with a draft that would be better than any draft a team will have this year.

Yet, bleacher report is what some decide to treat as gospel, because a guy who can't get a job as a pro scout says something.
You should read some of Bleacher Report's MMA articles.

You'll vomit for hours.
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That's not what I am saying at all. I am saying draft a QB that has the skillset and has won the close ones and come through when it counted. Draft a QB that looks like he can develop into someone as good as Joe Flacco is NOW.

I'm saying if Reid and Dorsey think they can get one of the two (Geno or Wilson) in 20s on up in the first, then wait and do it. If that's the case, I think they will.
Wait and do what? How do they wait and take a pick with which they don't have?
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Old 01-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #71
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Wait and do what? How do they wait and take a pick with which they don't have?
It's called trading. there were more first round trades in last year's draft than there ever have been because of the new rookie cap. We can use our second and third and still have the comp pick for Carr.

Again, if they don't feel the QBs are worth taking at #1, they will gamble. It's a real possibility guys.
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It's called trading. there were more first round trades in last year's draft than there ever have been because of the new rookie cap. We can use our second and third and still have the comp pick for Carr.
So trade the second pick int he 2nd round, the 1st pick in the 3rd round to trade back up and get a guy you could have just taken first overall?

Sounds right.
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It's called trading. there were more first round trades in last year's draft than there ever have been because of the new rookie cap. We can use our second and third and still have the comp pick for Carr.

Again, if they don't feel the QBs are worth taking at #1, they will gamble. It's a real possibility guys.
Dorsey, the new GM we have, comes from the Packers. He's stated that they will be sticking closely to the Packers philosophy, one which doesn't gamble on draft day.
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So trade the second pick int he 2nd round, the 1st pick in the 3rd round to trade back up and get a guy you could have just taken first overall?

Sounds right.
Except you are not including the original guy you draft. Assuming Albert isn't extended, people would really be upset walking out of the first three rounds of the draft with the best LT and Wilson?
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Dorsey, the new GM we have, comes from the Packers. He's stated that they will be sticking closely to the Packers philosophy, one which doesn't gamble on draft day.
Reid has traded in seven of his last ten drafts. He moved up and got the guy he wanted five of the seven times.

If we trade the 2nd and 3rd we get a really good first round player and a good QB. Again, they have to be sure one of the two will drop.
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