****OFFICIAL 2013 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD****

[-King-]

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

When you're the best player in the game and the 2nd best of all time (as of today), you are the guy to blame when your team loses.

It seems you're certainly the guy to blame by stupid people who don't understand how to watch basketball. That's for sure.

[houstonwhodat]

Spurs got dis.

That last shot by Parker was sick.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

Miami still won't have LeBron on Parker the rest of the series. They're not going to waste his energy chasing Parker and going through 5 screens a play.

Still think they have to do it at the end of games. He's the only guy who has a chance at dealing with him. LeBron's defense on Parker very nearly forced a turnover on that final possession.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by -King-

Miami still won't have LeBron on Parker the rest of the series. They're not going to waste his energy chasing Parker and going through 5 screens a play.

I imagine come the 4th Quarter they will though

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I never said he played the best fourth quarter of his career. I said I trusted the all-time great to make the right basketball decisions, the same decisions that have gotten him and his team to this point (and won them a championship in the previous year). LeBron will always take what the defense gives him. He is the best in the league at doing that, but tonight, it just didn't work out. There's no reason to think forcing more low percentage shots himself would have accomplished anything better.

Congrats, though, you managed to turn a great effort by a worthy team in the Spurs into another bash LeBron narrative. It takes a certain skill to do it so often.

I think it's too soon to call LeBron an all-time great, I think we have to wait a bit longer to say that. And that's a credit to him and his still not reached potential.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

We must have watched different games because I don't call what Wade, Bosh, and Chalmers did tonight doing their jobs. Outside of Wade's first half, those guys were all very bad.

Wade, Bosh, Allen, Birdman and Chalmers had 58 points on 44% shooting. That's not very bad. That's good support. Hell, the Heat bench outscored the Spurs bench by 8 points.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

When you're the best player in the game and the 2nd best of all time (as of today), you are the guy to blame when your team loses. The idea that that's some kind of a "bash lebron" narrative is comical.

I do find the stat that Lebron's Final Numbers are his worst of any playoff series. I would like to compare that to the other greats and see if that is the same for them as well.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

Wade, Bosh, Allen, Birdman and Chalmers had 58 points on 44% shooting. That's not very bad. That's good support. Hell, the Heat bench outscored the Spurs bench by 8 points.

Allen made some shots and literally nothing else (which, I suppose, is more than he did in the Pacers series) and Birdman did his usual effort over 13 minutes. The rest of them outside of Wade in the first half were terrible. Not sure how you could have missed this.

[dirk digler]

Lebron James:
Regular season:
27.6 ppg (48.3 FG percentage), 7.3 rpg, 6.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg
Playoffs:
28.5 ppg (46.9 FG percentage), 8.7 rpg, 6.7 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg
Finals:
22.5 ppg (43.8 FG percentage), 8.1 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.5 bpg


Michael Jordan
Regular season:
32.4 ppg (51.6 FG percentage), 6.3 rpg, 5.9 apg, 2.7 spg, 1.0 bpg
Playoffs:
34.7 ppg (50.1 FG percentage), 6.7 rpg, 6.6 apg, 2.3 spg, 1.0 bpg
Finals:
36.3 ppg (52.6 FG percentage), 6.6 rpg, 7.9 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It seems you're certainly the guy to blame by stupid people who don't understand how to watch basketball. That's for sure.

So stupid people who don't understand basketball blame me? I don't understand what you're trying to say here. But thank you for the compliment.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I think it's too soon to call LeBron an all-time great, I think we have to wait a bit longer to say that. And that's a credit to him and his still not reached potential.

Isn't he like 12th or 13th all-time in playoff scoring already? Passed somebody on that list the other day, which is pretty impressive considering all the passing he does as well.

There's not much of a debate that he's an all-time great at this point. It's just where he ends up on the list of the greats.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Way to go Spurs. Old man Duncan still kicking ass.

yep, the modern day Bill Russell

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Lebron James:
Regular season:
27.6 ppg (48.3 FG percentage), 7.3 rpg, 6.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg
Playoffs:
28.5 ppg (46.9 FG percentage), 8.7 rpg, 6.7 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg
Finals:
22.5 ppg (43.8 FG percentage), 8.1 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.5 bpg


Michael Jordan
Regular season:
32.4 ppg (51.6 FG percentage), 6.3 rpg, 5.9 apg, 2.7 spg, 1.0 bpg
Playoffs:
34.7 ppg (50.1 FG percentage), 6.7 rpg, 6.6 apg, 2.3 spg, 1.0 bpg
Finals:
36.3 ppg (52.6 FG percentage), 6.6 rpg, 7.9 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg

Yes. KC_Connection wants to paint me as some kind of an unreasonable LeBron hater.

I don't even compare LeBron to Kobe. LeBron's better. But KCC has no problem comparing LeBron to Jordan. And I'm sorry, but when you make that comparison, then game 1 was inexcusable for LeBron regardless of his numbers. Going 6 minutes in the 4th quarter with 0 points and 1 shot in a 7-point swing that blew the game open for the Spurs is inexcusable.

LeBron played outstanding all game, then so-so in the 4th quarter. It was not Jordan-esque.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Lebron James:
Regular season:
27.6 ppg (48.3 FG percentage), 7.3 rpg, 6.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg
Playoffs:
28.5 ppg (46.9 FG percentage), 8.7 rpg, 6.7 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.9 bpg
Finals:
22.5 ppg (43.8 FG percentage), 8.1 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.5 bpg


Michael Jordan
Regular season:
32.4 ppg (51.6 FG percentage), 6.3 rpg, 5.9 apg, 2.7 spg, 1.0 bpg
Playoffs:
34.7 ppg (50.1 FG percentage), 6.7 rpg, 6.6 apg, 2.3 spg, 1.0 bpg
Finals:
36.3 ppg (52.6 FG percentage), 6.6 rpg, 7.9 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg

Just for fun

Kobe Bryant
Regular Season:
25.5ppg (45.4 FG percentage), 5.3 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.5 bpg
Playoffs:
25.6ppg (44.8 FG percentage), 5.1 rpg, 4.7 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.7 bpg
Finals:
24.7ppg (41.1 FG percentage), 5.2 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.75 spg, 0.9 bpg

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But KCC has no problem comparing LeBron to Jordan.

Such utter bullshit. I never make such comparisons. I take and enjoy LeBron for what he is without bothering to bring up a player from a different era 20 years ago. It is others like you that seem particularly obsessed with doing so in the attempt to diminish him.