Who Would You Cut? Bray or Daniel?

[New World Order]

The battle of the year is here, and this time it's with a poll.

I am guessing this decision will not need to be made this year, because of Murray's injury.

But who would you cut? Bray is inexperienced, but Daniel is eating cap (**** you John Dorsey), that much money is absolutely ludicrous for a backup qb.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

Daniel has so far proven nothing in the league. We know he's not Tyler Palko and that's about it.

For all we know, he could be a terrible backup should he have to start a few games.

It's not like he's Kyle Orton or anything like that.

Did you read who the alternative is?

[gonefishin53]

I think Reid really enjoys developing QB talent. Bray has the arm talent that a good coach can develop if the player is willing to work at it. Pre-season should show if Bray has and will work for Reid.

[kcjoker]

Cut Bray...Daniel played really well in that San Diego game and he did his part to win it....Succup missed a 41 yard FG that would've won the game. Daniel had 21 completions with 30 attempts for 200 yards 6.7 average with 1 TD and no INT.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Did you read who the alternative is?

Two unproven QBs who cost nothing.

Versus an unproven who has only started one game in his career. Oh, and he's going to come with a $4 million price tag next year.

Unproven or unprovens?

I'll take unprovens.

[okcchief]

We are screwed of Smith gets hurt anyway. You know Daniel will never be a starter in the league. You don't know about Bray or Murray. Cut Daniel.

[okcchief]

Bray has a cannon. I don't see how you could give up on him at all. If he picks up the mental part he could be great. If he doesn't you're out nothing.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by okcchief

Bray has a cannon. I don't see how you could give up on him at all. If he picks up the mental part he could be great. If he doesn't you're out nothing.

It's going to come down to them feeling comfortable with the guy they have to roll out there if Smith is hurt.

They'd have to feel comfortable with Bray being able to step in for a game or two in the middle of a playoff hunt and win some games to cut Daniel at this point.

They're clearly comfortable with Daniel in that role, and he performed well in it in the one opportunity he got last year. He performed nearly as well against San Diego as Alex Smith did, on the road and with backups around him.

I'd take it as a very good sign for Bray's development if they're comfortable enough with him to cut Daniel, and wouldn't be upset (might even get the smallest bit excited about Bray for the first time).

I have a hard time believing that's what will happen, though. If Bray is cut, it means he's basically still the same guy who went undrafted (to me). He's got the size and arm, but the mental side of the game (decision making, working on the playbook, etc) had a long way to come (as did his off-field behavior). If they cut him, to me that says he hasn't progressed much if at all in those areas.

[keg in kc]

I think it's more about ascertaining whether they can turn Bray into a player who has trade value down the road. If they believe they can, then they have to keep him, regardless of whether he'll be ready to step into a playoff game in 8 months

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

"and" ?

Yes "and"

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think it's more about ascertaining whether they can turn Bray into a player who has trade value down the road. If they believe they can, then they have to keep him, regardless of whether he'll be ready to step into a playoff game in 8 months

I'm fine with that and on-board with that.

But if they're trying to "win" this year, will Andy Reid and co. be fine with that?

Part of me suspects they wouldn't have drafted Murray if they were pleased with the progress Bray was making.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It's going to come down to them feeling comfortable with the guy they have to roll out there if Smith is hurt.

They'd have to feel comfortable with Bray being able to step in for a game or two in the middle of a playoff hunt and win some games to cut Daniel at this point.

They're clearly comfortable with Daniel in that role, and he performed well in it in the one opportunity he got last year. He performed nearly as well against San Diego as Alex Smith did, on the road and with backups around him.

I'd take it as a very good sign for Bray's development if they're comfortable enough with him to cut Daniel, and wouldn't be upset (might even get the smallest bit excited about Bray for the first time).

I have a hard time believing that's what will happen, though. If Bray is cut, it means he's basically still the same guy who went undrafted (to me). He's got the size and arm, but the mental side of the game (decision making, working on the playbook, etc) had a long way to come (as did his off-field behavior). If they cut him, to me that says he hasn't progressed much if at all in those areas.

Perfect, IMO.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Tyler Bray
22 Years Old
6'-6"
215 lbs.
$498,333

Chase Daniel
27 Years Old
6'-0"
225 lbs.
$3,400,000


*Niether will win you the Super Bowl this year if Alex goes down.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

5 years younger.
6" taller
$3,000,000 cheaper
Higher ceiling.


Well if you put it like that, it's a no-brainer.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Trade Daniel, please.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

Trade Daniel, please.

No one is going to trade for him.

Especially with that stupid contract.