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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:54 PM   #4291
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Need to go win 2 of 3 in Pitt now.

Win the next 3 series and were in great shape.
Matheny needs to give Wainwright four full passes in the rotation along with this off day. Rest him until next Tuesday. That way he pitches against Cincy and can still catch the last game of the Pitt series the following Sunday.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:00 PM   #4292
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So miller Friday, ? Saturday, Lynn Sunday, Kelly Monday and waino Tuesday?

Isn't that how it's set?
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:43 PM   #4293
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So miller Friday, ? Saturday, Lynn Sunday, Kelly Monday and waino Tuesday?

Isn't that how it's set?
In theory, but remember when we ****ed with the rotation to get Wainwright the last start of the first half against Chicago? I'm just worried that Matheny will pitch him every fifth day instead of every fifth turn.
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:48 PM   #4294
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Dan and Al busted out laughing about Tiny Tim and Al's first marriage, then went silent for about five solid minutes. Some of the most bizarre television I've seen.
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I think I may have a solution:

Danny Espinosa. Apparently the Nationals want to move him. He's arb-eligible this year. In 310 innings at short last year he had a +22 UZR. Now that's not likely to hold up, but he should be a competent shortstop defensively, and he's got excellent pop for a MIF. I don't think it would take much to get it done.
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I think I may have a solution:

Danny Espinosa. Apparently the Nationals want to move him. He's arb-eligible this year. In 310 innings at short last year he had a +22 UZR. Now that's not likely to hold up, but he should be a competent shortstop defensively, and he's got excellent pop for a MIF. I don't think it would take much to get it done.
How can anyone be worse than Kozma and Delcasco defensively?

The only concern that I have with any upgrade at SS is the price. Cost controlled pitching is how we can compete with the $2 BILLION TV contracts of the Dodgers/Angels/Yankees etc. That young pitching is what everyone wants. And who thinks we have enough pitching after this year?

If we go for an upgrade at SS, lets go big and solve that position for years.
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How can anyone be worse than Kozma and Delcasco defensively?

The only concern that I have with any upgrade at SS is the price. Cost controlled pitching is how we can compete with the $2 BILLION TV contracts of the Dodgers/Angels/Yankees etc. That young pitching is what everyone wants. And who thinks we have enough pitching after this year?

If we go for an upgrade at SS, lets go big and solve that position for years.
You'd probably need to give the Rockies Wacha, Martinez, Adams, and more to even start the Tulowitzki discussion.

I'm telling you that the Espinosa situation is worth looking at. Stephen Drew or Peralta could be potential off-season targets.
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You'd probably need to give the Rockies Wacha, Martinez, Adams, and more to even start the Tulowitzki discussion.

I'm telling you that the Espinosa situation is worth looking at. Stephen Drew or Peralta could be potential off-season targets.
If I could keep Martinez and add anyone else, I'd talk.
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You'd probably need to give the Rockies Wacha, Martinez, Adams, and more to even start the Tulowitzki discussion.

I'm telling you that the Espinosa situation is worth looking at. Stephen Drew or Peralta could be potential off-season targets.
Adams and Wacha would get it done, IMO. And that's if it even took that much - Adams would be a massive get for the Rox. They need to replace Helton going forward and Rosario's been a mess when they've tried him at 1b.

I'm still way high on Tyler Pastornicky.
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Adams and Wacha would get it done, IMO. And that's if it even took that much - Adams would be a massive get for the Rox. They need to replace Helton going forward and Rosario's been a mess when they've tried him at 1b.

I'm still way high on Tyler Pastornicky.
I just don't see a bad bodied first baseman like Adams being that valuable of an asset. I know he's a lefty who crushed pitching in the minors, and he projects to 30 HR power, but I just find it hard to believe the Rockies would be bowled over by him. They could just sign Jose Abreu in the offseason and keep Tulo.
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Axford's been pretty terrible, but he's a better option than Blazek, Butler, or Salas at this point. He's not being brought in to close or set up.
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