Football The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE - Page 130

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-24-2013, 04:56 PM

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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12

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so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

KC_Lee · 02-26-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

And give me a viable reason why Geno isn't worthy of the #1 pick.......WITHOUT quoting or using the same bullshit that Kiper, Mayock or McShay have spouted.

Let me take thist thought a bit further if I may.

Considering the fact that there is a rookie pay scale in place and bad rookie contracts will no longer "kill" a team's salary cap can someone please explain the concept of a player being worthy of a draft position?

Just what happens if a player who is deemed not worthy of a draft postion is taken? Does the universe inplode? Is there some sort of mystical ritual that fails crops and poisons the water?

Please, someone explain the concept of worthy of the #1 pick to me cause it sounds like total BS to me.

**The Franchise** · 02-26-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

Honestly?

He reminds me ALOT of Alex Smith in college (check out Smith COLLEGE stats). Am I impressed with him as a player? Yes....but I don't see him as the "can't miss" player he would have to be with that pick.

I didn't like it when the Niners took Smith at #1. I didn't like the Russell pick to the Raiders. Bad things happen when you reach for a QB at #1. Does that mean he will be a bad player? No....not at all...I'd take him in round 1...just not first overall.

Show me where Alex Smith's college stats line up with Geno Smith. I'll be waiting.

Marvin49 · 02-26-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's nice. You do realize most teams in recent history that actually WON a SB aren't built that way right?

The NFL is cyclical. Teams win oine way until defenses counter.

Passing offenses become huge so defenses counter with smaller, faster players.

How to you attack that? You run the ball. You deploy Multi-TE sets to overpower those defenses. Look at NE and those TEs.

The NFL isn't static. You can choose to try to do what everyone else does or you can try to find an edge and go against the grain. That's what the Niners have done. Thats what the Redskins did with RGIII. Thats what Seattle did.

There is more than one way to win.

htismaqe · 02-26-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Indignayshun

The only reason I can think of is the value of the pick, and you have other players higher on your board who you believe are legitimately better.

If they have players on their board, in THIS draft, ahead of Geno, they're an idiot.

Kiper is an idiot. Mayock is an idiot. McShay is an idiot.

Every single one of these guys has at least one glaring weakness. Some of them have 2 or even THREE.

htismaqe · 02-26-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Indignayshun

Guys, he's a Niners fan.

3/5 of his team's offensive line was drafted in the first round. His stud QB was a 2nd round jackpot. And his team fields a Top 3 defense.

The Niners are a True Fans' wet dream.

Yep.

Chiefs=Champions · 02-26-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

Honestly?

He reminds me ALOT of Alex Smith in college (check out Smith COLLEGE stats). Am I impressed with him as a player? Yes....but I don't see him as the "can't miss" player he would have to be with that pick.

LISTERN HERE DONKEY ****ER. There has been maybe two. TWO cant miss players in the last 20 years. Manning and Luck. So **** me, we should go out and draft linemen every time till we trip on our dicks and luck into the next one?

What a stupid thing to say.

O.city · 02-26-2013, 11:43 AM

I think htis has officially gone into supernova.

ModSocks · 02-26-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

The NFL isn't static. You can choose to try to do what everyone else does or you can try to find an edge and go against the grain. That's what the Niners have done. Thats what the Redskins did with RGIII. Thats what Seattle did.

There is more than one way to win.

And every team you mentioned did it with a dynamic, game changer at QB...not an Alex Smith....

Hrmmmmm......interdasting.....

Marvin49 · 02-26-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Show me where Alex Smith's college stats line up with Geno Smith. I'll be waiting.

Geno had bigger numbers than Alex did. No question. The TD-INT ratio tho is similar. The offensive systems were similar...tho Alex ran ALOT more. The YPA (yards per attempt) are actually BETTER for Alex.

I'm not saying he will be no better than Alex. He could come in and take the world by storm...who knows.

If KC thinks that he's worthy of a #1 pick...then they HAVE to make th pick. Their actions tho suggest they do not think he is worthy of that pick.

Alex Smith
Passing:
2002 Utah MWC FR QB 2 4 50.0 4 1.0 -10.3 0 1 8.4
2003 Utah MWC SO QB 173 266 65.0 2247 yards 8.4 YPA 15 TDs 3 INTs 152.3 rating
2004 Utah MWC JR QB 214 317 67.5 2952 yards 9.3 10.8 YPA 32 TDs 4 INTs 176.5 rating

Rushing
2002 Utah MWC FR QB 2 -11 -5.5
2003 Utah MWC SO QB 149 452 yards
2004 Utah MWC JR QB 135 631 yards

**The Franchise** · 02-26-2013, 11:51 AM

Alex Smith did it ONE year.

htismaqe · 02-26-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think htis has officially gone into supernova.

Yep. Sorry.

Marvin49 · 02-26-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And every team you mentioned did it with a dynamic, game changer at QB...not an Alex Smith....

Hrmmmmm......interdasting.....

In 2011, the 49ers did it WITH Alex Smith...but again, not advocating that.

Also remember.....Kaep was a second round pick and Wilson was a 3rd round pick.

Marvin49 · 02-26-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Alex Smith did it ONE year.

Thats because he came out as a JR.

ModSocks · 02-26-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

If KC thinks that he's worthy of a #1 pick...then they HAVE to make th pick. Their actions tho suggest they do not think he is worthy of that pick.

And what actions would those be? Because up this point the only ACTIONS the Chiefs have taken is setting up meetings with these QB's, with more likely to follow.

Everything else is pure speculation.

Marvin49 · 02-26-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

LISTERN HERE DONKEY ****ER. There has been maybe two. TWO cant miss players in the last 20 years. Manning and Luck. So **** me, we should go out and draft linemen every time till we trip on our dicks and luck into the next one?

What a stupid thing to say.

No...those were the only can't miss QUARTERBACKS. That's kinda my point.

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