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tk13 · 10-04-2010, 10:44 PM

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Nolan and Zack Snyder, definitely an interesting team. There are already rumors now that Zod is going to be the villain.

I have to say I'm excited that it "appears" they aren't going to go totally out of left field and do something stupid and out of character for Superman.

BWillie · 06-14-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

My main problem with Superman to begin with is the ONLY way ANYONE (other than another Kryptonian like Zog or whatever) has any chance against him is with Kyptonite. No human in a suit is going to get it done.

He's too perfect, too unbeatable. Unless, you know, WHOA GREEN ROCK!! or whatever. For all those reasons I think Superman is boring.

But I'll see this movie, as I do most every superhero movie. Probably Sunday morning/early afternoon.

I liked on Smallville or whatever when Clark would get inflicted with Black Kryptonite? or something that would make him quasi evil. Instead of being the big emotional pussy that he is, he would just go party and bang whores.

AphexPhin · 06-14-2013, 03:27 PM

just got back from it and it was just decent at best. Zod was kind of a little bitch in this film. Superman just basically toyed with him through out the entire film.

6/10

Red Brooklyn · 06-14-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

You have to have a secret identity in a superhero film, HAVE TO. It can just be played out better. Personally, I love the Clark Kent identity and would love to hear about more of his childhood, kind of like how you learn about Bruce Wayne and how Batman Begins goes into depth as his identity before The Batman. I have a feeling this movie isn't going to focus as much time on that however.

You only HAVE TO because we always have.

I have no issue with Clark Kent or his backstory. That stuff is great, and I hope MoS treats that material well. I just mean once he's Superman, why does he also have to be a regular dude? Why does he have to be a reporter who wears glasses?

In fact, why do we have to call him Superman? Can't he just be Clark Kent and fly around saving the world and whatnot?

The whole thing just feels silly anymore.

Silock · 06-14-2013, 07:12 PM

Just saw it. Meh. Dialogue and interaction between Supes and Lois is forced and rushed, especially when they randomly start making out. And the film goes from dealing with Zod directly to a smiley, happy Superman. WAT.

It's good, but has a lot more flaws than TDKR did. How is Lois falling out of the ship at light speed at the end as everything else goes toward it? Standing straight up in the middle of a tornado? WAT.

I loved Russell Crowe in his role.

silver5liter · 06-14-2013, 10:20 PM

Saw it tonight and loved it, lots of action. I think the part people didnt like was how it jumped back and forth thru time a lot. but to tell a story from when someones a baby til he's grown takes a lot of time, it was a good way of doing it imo. I think they did a good job balancing the whole movie.

silver5liter · 06-14-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

Just saw it. Meh. Dialogue and interaction between Supes and Lois is forced and rushed, especially when they randomly start making out. And the film goes from dealing with Zod directly to a smiley, happy Superman. WAT.

It's good, but has a lot more flaws than TDKR did. How is Lois falling out of the ship at light speed at the end as everything else goes toward it? Standing straight up in the middle of a tornado? WAT.

I loved Russell Crowe in his role.

have to remember though, barman begins wasnt fantastic. I would probably put it on par with this. now that the origin story is out of the way like the first barman I could see it getting better and better

Gravedigger · 06-14-2013, 10:30 PM

IF YOU CLICK ON THE SPOILERS IT'S YOUR FAULT

I'm not going to compare this movie to any other superhero movie besides the previous Superman movies. Why? Because it's not TDK, it's not TDKR, it's not the Avengers, it is Man of Steel... and let me tell you this is not anything like any other Superman that you've seen before. It's not like the animated TV show, it's not like the 80's Superman movies, and it sure as hell isn't like Superman Returns.

First and foremost, I can see the complaints.

Starting with the flashbacks, the first thirty minutes after the Krypton opening is very back and forth. You only get a peek of him as a loner before you're wisked off to his childhood to see about ten minutes worth of footage, then you go back, and forth, and back, and forth, it breaks up the pace but it's not something that just ruins the movie and should be considered nothing more than a gripe.

The destruction at the end of the movie... yeah, it's constant and similar. I would've liked to see Zod and Superman just trade heavy hits instead of throwing each other through literally six or seven buildings over and over again. It does get monotonous.

Spoiler!

Zod was kind of a weak villain. He was all talk up until the final battle, they should've given some of Faora's lines and actions to Zod to make him more menacing. Diane Lane took a backseat to Kevin Costner, and Jenny was a throw away character. Lois was kinda dumb in the movie, and honestly as a Pulitzer Prize winning author she is allowed in too many military situations.

Spoiler!

The great things:

Russell Crowe
Henry Cavill
Faora
Kevin Costner

Spoiler!

Overall I'd give it an 8/10. Maybe I'll like it more the second time around, but for right now it was good, but not great.

DanBecky · 06-14-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

IF YOU CLICK ON THE SPOILERS IT'S YOUR FAULT

I'm not going to compare this movie to any other superhero movie besides the previous Superman movies. Why? Because it's not TDK, it's not TDKR, it's not the Avengers, it is Man of Steel... and let me tell you this is not anything like any other Superman that you've seen before. It's not like the animated TV show, it's not like the 80's Superman movies, and it sure as hell isn't like Superman Returns.

First and foremost, I can see the complaints.

Starting with the flashbacks, the first thirty minutes after the Krypton opening is very back and forth. You only get a peek of him as a loner before you're wisked off to his childhood to see about ten minutes worth of footage, then you go back, and forth, and back, and forth, it breaks up the pace but it's not something that just ruins the movie and should be considered nothing more than a gripe.

The destruction at the end of the movie... yeah, it's constant and similar. I would've liked to see Zod and Superman just trade heavy hits instead of throwing each other through literally six or seven buildings over and over again. It does get monotonous.

Spoiler!

Zod was kind of a weak villain. He was all talk up until the final battle, they should've given some of Faora's lines and actions to Zod to make him more menacing. Diane Lane took a backseat to Kevin Costner, and Jenny was a throw away character. Lois was kinda dumb in the movie, and honestly as a Pulitzer Prize winning author she is allowed in too many military situations.

Spoiler!

The great things:

Russell Crowe
Henry Cavill
Faora
Kevin Costner

Spoiler!

Overall I'd give it an 8/10. Maybe I'll like it more the second time around, but for right now it was good, but not great.

All that took spoilers bro! But I'm glad to hear positive reviews so far. Nice review

**Fire Me Boy!** · 06-15-2013, 04:33 AM

The wife and I enjoyed it quite a lot.

KCFalcon59 · 06-15-2013, 06:45 AM

Can't wait. 7 can't get here soon enough.

Lex Luthor · 06-15-2013, 09:16 AM

I REALLY liked the movie, because it was the first Superman movie ever made that was both serious and watchable. The Superman Returns movie of several years was such an abortion that I wanted to hunt down the people who made it so I could beat the hell out them, and the Christopher Reeve movies just had too much idiotic farce in them. I mean, whose idea was it to have Gene Hackman play Lex Luthor as a comedic figure with a mumbling doofus named Otis as his henchman and with a stupid non-sexy "Miss Tessmacher" as his gun moll? Those were horrible movies.

THIS movie took the Superman character seriously. Some people have been complaining about the flashbacks, but I thought they were a very effective way to mix the backstory in with the events currently going on.

The only thing I didn't like was the excessive use of hand cameras. I know filmmakers have liked to do that to bring a sense of realism ever since the Cops TV show became popular, but I find it distracting and annoying. Also, the extreme closeups made Diane Lane look like an old hag. But I thought the storyline was great, and the special effects for the action scenes were excellent. I do wish they'd cast a hotter woman as Lois Lane, however.

Having said all that, I'll also say I plan to see it again. I think the comparison to Batman Begins is pretty accurate.

AphexPhin · 06-15-2013, 09:25 AM

Was Zod this weak in the older Superman film? From what I remember he put up quite the fight against Superman in the Reeves' film.

In this one he really didnt pose much of a threat and wasn't that good of a fighter considering ol' man Russell Crowe handled him for the most part only to get a cheap shot in there from Zod.

Gravedigger · 06-15-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AphexPhin

Was Zod this weak in the older Superman film? From what I remember he put up quite the fight against Superman in the Reeves' film.

In this one he really didnt pose much of a threat and wasn't that good of a fighter considering ol' man Russell Crowe handled him for the most part only to get a cheap shot in there from Zod.

Spoiler!

**Fire Me Boy!** · 06-15-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

I do wish they'd cast a hotter woman as Lois Lane, however.

Take. It. Back.

keg in kc · 06-15-2013, 10:35 AM

Spoiler!

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06-14-2013, 03:27 PM	#632
AphexPhin Banned Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	just got back from it and it was just decent at best. Zod was kind of a little bitch in this film. Superman just basically toyed with him through out the entire film. 6/10
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06-14-2013, 07:12 PM	#634
Silock MVP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10020882	Just saw it. Meh. Dialogue and interaction between Supes and Lois is forced and rushed, especially when they randomly start making out. And the film goes from dealing with Zod directly to a smiley, happy Superman. WAT. It's good, but has a lot more flaws than TDKR did. How is Lois falling out of the ship at light speed at the end as everything else goes toward it? Standing straight up in the middle of a tornado? WAT. I loved Russell Crowe in his role.
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06-14-2013, 10:20 PM	#635
silver5liter ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $10005135	Saw it tonight and loved it, lots of action. I think the part people didnt like was how it jumped back and forth thru time a lot. but to tell a story from when someones a baby til he's grown takes a lot of time, it was a good way of doing it imo. I think they did a good job balancing the whole movie.
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06-14-2013, 10:30 PM	#637
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $7343101	IF YOU CLICK ON THE SPOILERS IT'S YOUR FAULT I'm not going to compare this movie to any other superhero movie besides the previous Superman movies. Why? Because it's not TDK, it's not TDKR, it's not the Avengers, it is Man of Steel... and let me tell you this is not anything like any other Superman that you've seen before. It's not like the animated TV show, it's not like the 80's Superman movies, and it sure as hell isn't like Superman Returns. First and foremost, I can see the complaints. Starting with the flashbacks, the first thirty minutes after the Krypton opening is very back and forth. You only get a peek of him as a loner before you're wisked off to his childhood to see about ten minutes worth of footage, then you go back, and forth, and back, and forth, it breaks up the pace but it's not something that just ruins the movie and should be considered nothing more than a gripe. The destruction at the end of the movie... yeah, it's constant and similar. I would've liked to see Zod and Superman just trade heavy hits instead of throwing each other through literally six or seven buildings over and over again. It does get monotonous. Spoiler! If they were going to have the final battle it should've just happened in the ashes that they started in. With that in mind how in the hell is the Daily Planet standing after all that? In the end when Clark gets his job, how is he standing in the Daily Planet??? Also I would've liked to see Zod target Lois instead of four random civilians. It would've increased their relationship and his sacrifice for her. To kill Zod over letting her die would've been great. Zod was kind of a weak villain. He was all talk up until the final battle, they should've given some of Faora's lines and actions to Zod to make him more menacing. Diane Lane took a backseat to Kevin Costner, and Jenny was a throw away character. Lois was kinda dumb in the movie, and honestly as a Pulitzer Prize winning author she is allowed in too many military situations. Spoiler! Let's explore an alien craft with our camera... and take pictures of this robot that's floating towards me. She deserved to die right then and there. Then later she's on the aircraft that is going to open a black hole? Superman would've never allowed that. The great things: Russell Crowe Henry Cavill Faora Kevin Costner Spoiler! When Jonathan Kent dies, if they both knew that Clark could withstand the tornado, then Clark should've told Jonathan to get Diane Lane to safety while HE rescued the dog, then to expect us to believe he would've just accepted a wave off and let him die? Overall this scene was great, because you felt sorry for Clark and he sold that scream very well. Also when Zod goes after Diane Lane and Superman just bull rushes him and pounds him down for threatening her, hilarious. Overall I'd give it an 8/10. Maybe I'll like it more the second time around, but for right now it was good, but not great.
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06-15-2013, 04:33 AM	#639
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06-15-2013, 09:16 AM	#641
Lex Luthor MVP Join Date: Mar 2010 Casino cash: $10022775	I REALLY liked the movie, because it was the first Superman movie ever made that was both serious and watchable. The Superman Returns movie of several years was such an abortion that I wanted to hunt down the people who made it so I could beat the hell out them, and the Christopher Reeve movies just had too much idiotic farce in them. I mean, whose idea was it to have Gene Hackman play Lex Luthor as a comedic figure with a mumbling doofus named Otis as his henchman and with a stupid non-sexy "Miss Tessmacher" as his gun moll? Those were horrible movies. THIS movie took the Superman character seriously. Some people have been complaining about the flashbacks, but I thought they were a very effective way to mix the backstory in with the events currently going on. The only thing I didn't like was the excessive use of hand cameras. I know filmmakers have liked to do that to bring a sense of realism ever since the Cops TV show became popular, but I find it distracting and annoying. Also, the extreme closeups made Diane Lane look like an old hag. But I thought the storyline was great, and the special effects for the action scenes were excellent. I do wish they'd cast a hotter woman as Lois Lane, however. Having said all that, I'll also say I plan to see it again. I think the comparison to Batman Begins is pretty accurate.
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06-15-2013, 09:25 AM	#642
AphexPhin Banned Join Date: May 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Was Zod this weak in the older Superman film? From what I remember he put up quite the fight against Superman in the Reeves' film. In this one he really didnt pose much of a threat and wasn't that good of a fighter considering ol' man Russell Crowe handled him for the most part only to get a cheap shot in there from Zod.
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06-15-2013, 10:35 AM	#645
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Spoiler! You've got to remember the mythology of Krypton in the movie. Zod was bio-engineered. But not as a soldier. As a general. He orchestrates the movements of other people in battles. He doesn't fight them himself. And he didn't even rise through the ranks. He was born to be what he was, and it's all he ever was. So your fight at the end was between an untested Superman new to the real power he has and a somewhat unbalanced strategist/tactician 33 years behind in terms of adjusting to Earth.
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