Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 64

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

Jewish Rabbi · 05-24-2013, 09:42 PM

Anyone see Angel Hernandez blow that call in the White Sox game? Jesus, how does he have a job?

Frazod · 05-24-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Anyone see Angel Hernandez blow that call in the White Sox game? Jesus, how does he have a job?

I heard them bitching about it on the radio. Apparently Harrelson blew a microchip on the air, too. I'll have to try to find video of that when I get home.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

You guys watching the game. Here's a stat I heard scully say...........

When Lynn pitches and the Cardinals score 3 or more runs, he is 22-4 for his career.

Seems massively good to me. Hamas, is that a high winning % for a #3 pitcher with 3 runs of support?

That's a ridiculous W-L for any pitcher, but I'd be more interested to see his W-L w/ just 3-4 runs.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:07 PM

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Sounds like a loser trade for us.

We don't get shit in the trade and we give up on a pitcher that one day could possibly be a #3-#5 MLB pitcher. Why not just hang on to him and see if it ever clicks?

While that would be nice, a 20 year old who has had two consecutive years of decreasing K totals and increasing walk totals in Single A is not exactly a commodity that inspires confidence.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:09 PM

Just tuned in. Lynn's two-seamer has ****ing ricockulous movement tonight.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:13 PM

For comparison:

Lynn's splits:

7-3 w/ 3-5 runs, 15-1 w/ 6+.

Wainwright's:

3-5: 29-17

6+: 50-2

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:19 PM

Guerrier must be their version of Boggs. This **** has thrown 11 straight balls...and Yadi swings at the first pitch

**BigRedChief** · 05-24-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Just tuned in. Lynn's two-seamer has ****ing ricockulous movement tonight.

and of course you pull him after 77 pitches.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:42 PM

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and of course you pull him after 77 pitches.

Wasn't a huge fan of that move, but the top of the 7th was a long inning and with the off day some of the less valuable pen arms could use some work.

Jewish Rabbi · 05-24-2013, 10:48 PM

This is a game we should throw Boggs, since we're insistent on having him on the roster. Hell, Mujica can probably get another save out of the deal.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-24-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

This is a game we should throw Boggs, since we're insistent on having him on the roster. Hell, Mujica can probably get another save out of the deal.

Almost posted the exact thing.

Holy ****, this Rodriguez dude has a funky delivery.

**BigRedChief** · 05-24-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

This is a game we should throw Boggs, since we're insistent on having him on the roster. Hell, Mujica can probably get another save out of the deal.

thats pretty funny but too close to the truth.

Jewish Rabbi · 05-24-2013, 11:02 PM

Ask, and I shall receive. I'm off to bed. Not even worth chancing it.

**BigRedChief** · 05-25-2013, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Ask, and I shall receive. I'm off to bed. Not even worth chancing it.

From now on................. when Boggs is on the mound, you must go to bed.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-25-2013, 07:10 PM

Why did Gast leave after the first inning? I took a nap to wake up to the nightmare that is Joe Kelly.

01-25-2013, 05:27 PM
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05-24-2013, 10:19 PM	#952
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8019572	Guerrier must be their version of Boggs. This **** has thrown 11 straight balls...and Yadi swings at the first pitch __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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