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Old 01-26-2013, 01:17 AM  
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Colin Kaepernick can't cash in

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has found holes in opposing defenses and the CBA.

Thanks to the collective bargaining agreement that the NFL and NFLPA negotiated in July 2011, what San Francisco is paying Kaepernick to take the team to Super Bowl XLVII is a steal. And the Seattle Seahawks are paying even less to quarterback Russell Wilson, who took the team to the divisional playoff round and set up the franchise for the next decade.

There might not be two athletes in any sport as underpaid as Kaepernick and Wilson, two NFC West quarterbacks who figure to square off for years to come. It's off-the-charts ridiculousness, their salaries. It's thievery, nearly criminal.

Sixty minutes from a world championship, Kaepernick is finishing up Year Two of a four-year, $5.12 million deal that is worth more than $3 million less in full than what Mark Sanchez will make from the New York Jets next season.

Yet Kaepernick has no out. He is locked into the deal until after the 2013 season.

Wilson's deal is even more glaringly incongruous. He signed a four-year, $2.99 million deal that is worth $6 million less in full than what Kevin Kolb is scheduled to make from Seattle's division rival Arizona Cardinals next season.

Like Kaepernick, Wilson has no way out. He is stuck with the deal until after the 2014 season, despite being added to the Pro Bowl this week and looking like he could go for years to come.

These two deals expose one of the biggest weaknesses in the CBA for the players and one of the biggest strengths for owners. Young NFL players have no choice but to suck it up for three years, even if they play at the level Kaepernick and Wilson have. Meanwhile, NFL owners get to build cheaply through the draft and own players' rights for five to six years, without the threat of arbitration that Major League Baseball has.

This is why good scouting and draft picks really are more valuable than ever before. The NFL never has seen good labor this cheap for this long.

How the league got here is easy enough to understand. During the most recent CBA negotiations, we saw an extreme backlash against the outlandish deals given to top draft picks in previous years, when a player such as former No. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell walked away with $32 million in guaranteed money. So much attention was given to the issue that standout rookies in the new 10-year CBA now are being punished for it. In part because of Russell, Kaepernick and Wilson are underpaid.

There is no reprieve, no chance to be paid until a player has given a team three seasons. By then, some running backs, such as an Alfred Morris, will have plenty of wear on their tires. And as everyone prepares for Super Bowl XLVII, the storylines that follow it will be different than in the past.

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The Seahawks get to hang onto Russell Wilson at his current bargain price for two more seasons.
Young players such as Kaepernick who help lead their team to the Super Bowl cannot demand new deals the way they seemed to regularly in the past. It used to be like this: Player helps team to Super Bowl, player demands new deal, team rewards player for helping team, new deal gets done.

But that was old-school. New-school is the ultimate form of detention for standout young players. The CBA locks up their contracts for three years and throws away the key, with no chance of parole.

It would be much more equitable if certain allowances were made for extreme examples, players who glaringly outplay expectations. It would be hard to define what that level of play is, but suffice it to say that everyone would know. Any player who helps lead his team to the Super Bowl in his second year, as Kaepernick has done, or goes to the Pro Bowl in his first year, the way Wilson has, deserves to be rewarded, at least more than his existing rookie deal does.

Until the rules are adjusted, the players will continue to be wronged. And after watching Kaepernick and Wilson this season and seeing what they will earn in future seasons, one truth is self-evident: The holes in the CBA are a lot bigger than any they find in opposing defenses.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:18 PM   #76
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Jon Baldwin should give his contract back and make NFL minimum for making like 1 play over 2 seasons. Maybe he can give the money to these two?
Baldwin only makes like $7M over 4 years.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:19 PM   #77
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and I always laugh when Joe Message Board Poster says something like "oh waaaah $300K is still a lot of money!"

first off, no shit. Secondly, these guys are the PRODUCT for a MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR business that is so profitable the owners won't even open up their books because they don't want the NFLPA to see just how much money they are making...the product deserves to be paid what they are worth...and guys like Russell Wilson are worth a SHIT TON of money.

The best of the best of the best have 10 years to make as much money as they can possibly make to last them a lifetime...we have 40 years to make enough money to live a comfortable retirement.

I absolutely think anyone that agrees with the idea that these guys shouldn't be allowed to renegotiate their contracts whenever they want are flat out ignorant human beings.

If anyone honestly agrees with that then every rookie contract should be fully guaranteed...from pick #1 to Mr. Irrelevant.
this has to be Hootie ... right?
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:19 PM   #78
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Baldwin only makes like $7M over 4 years.
One mill per catch?
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:20 PM   #79
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Jon Baldwin should give his contract back and make NFL minimum for making like 1 play over 2 seasons. Maybe he can give the money to these two?
Sounds fair...
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this has to be Hootie ... right?
Yeah, he thinks these guys are top 5 QB's already after one year.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:22 PM   #81
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Yeah, he thinks these guys are top 5 QB's already after one year.
Thanks, i don't even try to keep up with all the name changes.
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anyone who watched Wilson or Kaepernick in the postseason and doesn't see their abilities and the fact that at their very best they are better than anyone going right now is ignorant.

I think they are both top 5 QB's for the 2013 season, no doubt.
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Goddam, people bitch for years that rookies shouldn't be getting huge contracts when they haven't played a down in the NFL and veteran players don't get raises they deserve because so much money is tied up in those rookies...So they fix that in the new CBA and now they're bitching the rookies should be making more...
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anyone who watched Wilson or Kaepernick in the postseason and doesn't see their abilities and the fact that at their very best they are better than anyone going right now is ignorant.

I think they are both top 5 QB's for the 2013 season, no doubt.
I couldn't disagree more.

At this point hurling insults at stupidity has become repetitive and boring. Punch yourself in the nuts and lets just call it even...
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Wrong.

Terrible point.

2nd-7th round picks still make the same exact money they have always made.

We bitched about the top 15 picks being grossly overpaid and causing holdouts. They were absolutely right to fix that and guarantee those contracts as a bargain.

But I don't expect anyone on this site to use any common sense or do any research before they post incorrect babble.
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The difference is now, the late round gems (or everyone not picked in the NFL "lottery") can no longer rework their contracts...which is absurd and ridiculous.

I've also given concrete reasons why but for some reason you're all too ignorant to understand for some reason so OH WELL.
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Wrong.

Terrible point.

2nd-7th round picks still make the same exact money they have always made.

We bitched about the top 15 picks being grossly overpaid and causing holdouts. They were absolutely right to fix that and guarantee those contracts as a bargain.

But I don't expect anyone on this site to use any common sense or do any research before they post incorrect babble.
Are you arguing that they CAN'T hold out?...
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Are you arguing that they CAN'T hold out?...
yes.

Russell Wilson should have the option to be able to hold out for a better contract after the year he had.

He should be able to, as a professional, make as much money as he deserves to make.

Holdouts are annoying to fans but this is HIS job and he has earned the right to make the money he deserves to make, or as much money as his employer will pay him for his services.

Just like you or me if we outperform our expectations at our jobs we expect and deserve a raise.
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yes.

Russell Wilson should have the option to be able to hold out for a better contract after the year he had.

He should be able to, as a professional, make as much money as he deserves to make.

Holdouts are annoying to fans but this is HIS job and he has earned the right to make the money he deserves to make, or as much money as his employer will pay him for his services.

Just like you or me if we outperform our expectations at our jobs we expect and deserve a raise.
He can hold out.
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