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Old 03-24-2014, 12:52 AM  
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Mark Cuban: "The NFL is 10 years away from an implosion."

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Cuban: With TV deal, NFL is 'hoggy'
By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com


DALLAS - Mark Cuban, the outspoken Dallas Mavericks owner, predicts a drastic decline in the popularity of the NFL over the next decade due to the league's greed.

"I think the NFL is 10 years away from an implosion," Cuban said Sunday evening when his pregame conversation with reporters, which covered a broad range of topics, swayed toward football. "I'm just telling you, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. And they're getting hoggy. Just watch. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. When you try to take it too far, people turn the other way.

"I'm just telling you, when you've got a good thing and you get greedy, it always, always, always, always, always turns on you. That's rule number one of business."

Cuban is specifically referring to the NFL expanding their television package. He considers it a poor business decision for the NFL, which consistently dominates TV ratings, to play games on days other than Sunday and Monday.

In February, the NFL announced a one-year deal with CBS and NFL Network partnering to televise Thursday night games. CBS, which won the bidding for the Thursday night package over NBC, ABC, Fox and Turner, will air the games during the first eight weeks of the season, simulcasting them with the NFL Network. The league's cable network will exclusively show six Thursday night games later in the season with CBS' top announcing tandem of Jim Nantz and Phil Simms in the booth. The NFL Network will also have a Saturday doubleheader in Week 16.

The NFL started a limited package of Thursday night games in 2006. The NFL Network showed 13 Thursday night games last season.

"They're trying to take over every night of TV," Cuban said. "Initially, it'll be, 'Yeah, they're the biggest-rating thing that there is.' OK, Thursday, that's great, regardless of whether it impacts [the NBA] during that period when we cross over. Then if it gets Saturday, now you're impacting colleges. Now it's on four days a week. ...

"It's all football. At some point, the people get sick of it."

Cuban said the NFL is making a mistake by valuing television money over the convenience of fans who are used to planning for their NFL teams to play on Sundays with the occasional Monday night game. He compared it to the decline in popularity of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" after the game show expanded to air five days a week.

"They put it on every night," Cuban said. "Not 100 percent analogous, but they handled it the same. I'm just telling you, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered."
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:05 AM   #16
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8-8 league? Really? The NFL is far more polarized than that, with the Seahawks, Whiners, Donks, etc. on one end and absolutely hopeless franchises like the Faid and the Browns on the other.

I do agree with Cuban that the NFL is headed for a downturn with the way things are going. They're messing with a good product by watering the game down with senseless rule changes, blatant favoritism shown to certain players and teams, and the general year-round overexposure of the league nowadays.
Exactly. Everyone BUT the NFL it seems has heard of the common sense rule of, "If it ain't broke - DONT "fix" it". Especially when they keep "fixing" it and cause more problems. For instance they "fix" missed calls by allowing challenges - yet they have an out with the "whistle blew" rule that only allows "certain" things to be challenged. That shit goes hand and hand with blatant favoritism and allows "critical moments" in games to be controlled which can often times influence the outcome.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:08 AM   #17
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I agree, to an extent.

I also think that trying to expand the league out of the us is gonna be a huge logistical mistake.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:20 AM   #18
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I agree, to an extent.

I also think that trying to expand the league out of the us is gonna be a huge logistical mistake.
Sure will. Not only that, I'm not sure the rest of the world wants it to begin with...Deal is every one of us could sit here and list many things wrong with the NFL. That wasn't the case 10 years ago...
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:23 AM   #19
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What?

The NFC had about 8 winning teams and a bunch of dog$#it. You had an 11-5 team not make the playoffs in the NFC.

Cuban is a jealous bitch that wishes the NBA was anywhere close to as popular as the NFL...
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I agree, to an extent.

I also think that trying to expand the league out of the us is gonna be a huge logistical mistake.
I think England is a huge mistake.

I could see giving the 'Nadians a team. I'm sure with the whole of the nation they could support one NFL franchise...
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:26 AM   #21
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Cuban is a pretty smart business man. Might want to listen to him.
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Cuban is a pretty smart business man. Might want to listen to him.
If he was that smart he would have bought an NFL team...
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I agree with him.

I HATE the Thursday games. I HATE the MNF double-header(s). Stick to Sunday, late season Saturday games, and MNF. Kill NFLN. They're diluting the product chasing $$$$$.


EDIT: Oh, and kill the games in Europe.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:48 AM   #24
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If he was that smart he would have bought an NFL team...
They won't let him. Good ole boys club.
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They won't let him.
Aaaaaaaaaand there's the butthurt behind the comments...
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The premise behind what he is saying is absolutely correct. The only time TV shows are on every night is when their popularity has dwindled. Absolutely there would be some that would love to have football on most evenings. But the majority of people need a break or they become complacent about whatever it is. We can definitely get too much of anything, if it is a good thing we will over indulge quickly, which generally leads to a quicker end to the enjoyment.
The NFL should stop with the occasional Thursday night game for the regular season. I don't even like that because those games are generally on the NFLN only.
I also agree with others that have stated we need to stay out of Europe. Way, way too many logistical obstacles that can and will arise no matter how smooth everything looks on paper.
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I agree with him.

I HATE the Thursday games. I HATE the MNF double-header(s). Stick to Sunday, late season Saturday games, and MNF. Kill NFLN. They're diluting the product chasing $$$$$.


EDIT: Oh, and kill the games in Europe.
Yep. The MNF Double-Header is stupid....The owners will only stop and think when they get less money for some revenue streams. For example NFL Sunday Ticket will negotiate their price down due to less games being offered to them on any given Sunday. Anyone who has had Sunday Ticket for 6-10 years can see the effect as there are far less games available because of 2 MNF games, Thursday games, Sunday night games etc. . If DTV can't get the subscriptions, they won't pay as much to televise them. Of course the NFL will shop it but a new carrier might not want to pay a premium either as they will certainly recognize the trend. Deal is this will have to happen with several revenue streams because any single loss could be absorbed and covered by another one. When it happens on multiple levels, they owners will listen.
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Yep. He applied for ownership of the Houston franchise but was denied. He had all the credentials.
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The premise behind what he is saying is absolutely correct. The only time TV shows are on every night is when their popularity has dwindled. Absolutely there would be some that would love to have football on most evenings. But the majority of people need a break or they become complacent about whatever it is. We can definitely get too much of anything, if it is a good thing we will over indulge quickly, which generally leads to a quicker end to the enjoyment.
The NFL should stop with the occasional Thursday night game for the regular season. I don't even like that because those games are generally on the NFLN only.
The reason that doesn't happen with the NFL is because the season is so short with so few games.

The NBA and MLB saturate with an insane schedule and so the games don't really matter early in the year. No one cares.

Even NASCAR seems like it never ends. It's every week.

People aren't asking for less NFL. Compare sunday ticket subscribers to ten years ago. Compare fantasy football money.

It's all trending up...
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