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Old 03-24-2014, 12:52 AM  
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Mark Cuban: "The NFL is 10 years away from an implosion."

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Cuban: With TV deal, NFL is 'hoggy'
By Tim MacMahon | ESPNDallas.com


DALLAS - Mark Cuban, the outspoken Dallas Mavericks owner, predicts a drastic decline in the popularity of the NFL over the next decade due to the league's greed.

"I think the NFL is 10 years away from an implosion," Cuban said Sunday evening when his pregame conversation with reporters, which covered a broad range of topics, swayed toward football. "I'm just telling you, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. And they're getting hoggy. Just watch. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. When you try to take it too far, people turn the other way.

"I'm just telling you, when you've got a good thing and you get greedy, it always, always, always, always, always turns on you. That's rule number one of business."

Cuban is specifically referring to the NFL expanding their television package. He considers it a poor business decision for the NFL, which consistently dominates TV ratings, to play games on days other than Sunday and Monday.

In February, the NFL announced a one-year deal with CBS and NFL Network partnering to televise Thursday night games. CBS, which won the bidding for the Thursday night package over NBC, ABC, Fox and Turner, will air the games during the first eight weeks of the season, simulcasting them with the NFL Network. The league's cable network will exclusively show six Thursday night games later in the season with CBS' top announcing tandem of Jim Nantz and Phil Simms in the booth. The NFL Network will also have a Saturday doubleheader in Week 16.

The NFL started a limited package of Thursday night games in 2006. The NFL Network showed 13 Thursday night games last season.

"They're trying to take over every night of TV," Cuban said. "Initially, it'll be, 'Yeah, they're the biggest-rating thing that there is.' OK, Thursday, that's great, regardless of whether it impacts [the NBA] during that period when we cross over. Then if it gets Saturday, now you're impacting colleges. Now it's on four days a week. ...

"It's all football. At some point, the people get sick of it."

Cuban said the NFL is making a mistake by valuing television money over the convenience of fans who are used to planning for their NFL teams to play on Sundays with the occasional Monday night game. He compared it to the decline in popularity of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" after the game show expanded to air five days a week.

"They put it on every night," Cuban said. "Not 100 percent analogous, but they handled it the same. I'm just telling you, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered."
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Old 03-25-2014, 12:16 AM   #151
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You know that Goodell does none of these things without the blessing of the owners? And often with the agreement of the players? And that some of these things have nothing to do with him? Your complaint is with the owners.
Yeah, this.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:39 AM   #152
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I do find it ironic that people on a football message board are complaining about an oversaturation of the NFL.
Why? It's our love of the game that wants it protected. Too much of a good thing is not healthy.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:45 AM   #153
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Why? It's our love of the game that wants it protected. Too much of a good thing is not healthy.
It's not too much for everyone. Being on the road most of the time, I don't get to watch nearly as much. No MNF or TNF.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:56 AM   #154
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Not to get political, but we have gotten to the point where we now shrug off school massacres every few years as just an unavoidable part of life.

If dead kids don't lead to huge policy changes (not saying it should, either), then I think we can get over 1 dead or paralyzed multi-millionaire.

If something isn't part of the culture and people aren't deeply invested in something, then they can take or leave it, but once something is deeply ingrained in the culture whether its guns or football, then you can't fight culture. They aren't going to just shrug their shoulders and give up something important to culture lightly.

edit: a good example is dodgeball. It is basically dead or almost dead in schools because we don't have this deeply important, highly valued cultural attachment to dodgeball. Its just a stupid game, we can take or leave dodgeball, and if some kids get their feelings hurt, people won't care when its ended, they can just run around or play basketball instead.
Great take. Comparing guns to NFL is a perfect analogy. No matter how many innocent lives are taken, the gun advocates will say it was the innocents' right' to die.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:14 AM   #155
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Great take. Comparing guns to NFL is a perfect analogy. No matter how many innocent lives are taken, the gun advocates will say it was the innocents' right' to die.
I'm not sure I've heard anyone put it that way.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:23 AM   #156
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Cuban is complaining about oversaturation while NBA plays like every single day!
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:39 AM   #157
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I find myself less and less interested in the NFL every year. It's directly related to the Commish and Owners constantly changing the rules. I can't even sit through an NBA game...whether it be the first one of the year or game 7 of the NBA finals.
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Cuban is complaining about oversaturation while NBA plays like every single day!
Well, that's a good point.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:07 AM   #159
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I wish Mark Cuban would do his part to save the NFL by buying the Chiefs and then getting to vote as an owner. Certainly a win-win... #****TheHunts
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:09 AM   #160
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I find myself less and less interested in the NFL every year. It's directly related to the Commish and Owners constantly changing the rules. I can't even sit through an NBA game...whether it be the first one of the year or game 7 of the NBA finals.
While I was never interested in the NBA, I'm having the same problem with the NFL. I blame it on the changes in the game and the business, but in the back of my mind I also kind of wonder if I'm just hitting a satiation point due to age and experience. I've watched probably close to 1,000 NFL games in my life, and maybe that's enough.

But I'd prefer to blame the changes in the game and the business, so I will.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:11 AM   #161
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I watch the NFL differently than I used to. I don't really have a favorite team anymore. I just like good games.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:22 AM   #162
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While I was never interested in the NBA, I'm having the same problem with the NFL. I blame it on the changes in the game and the business, but in the back of my mind I also kind of wonder if I'm just hitting a satiation point due to age and experience. I've watched probably close to 1,000 NFL games in my life, and maybe that's enough.

But I'd prefer to blame the changes in the game and the business, so I will.
I think we're all there, and I think it's always more than one thing. Sure, the NFL is finding ways to appeal to non-NFL fans, and that might be their demise IMO. But I think "life" has gotten more difficult over the past few decades, at least for many of us, and there's no way football can be all-consuming to most. Perhaps it's just because I'm 50'ish, but I've noted that kids (my own included) have 1-10th the interest in football that I grew up with and didn't have a team local. Perhaps it's that most of us expose our kids to SOOOO many things these days (and that's good), but I think that deep-rooted desire for football isn't what it used to be across all age-groups.

And I agree that saturation might be part of it too. Then again, I live in KC and our team is an epic fail in terms of "success" compared to others, so maybe it's just a local thing. I wonder how consumed kids in Seattle or S.F. are since they're teams seem to have down years, then rebound with deep runs in the playoffs (at least).

So I don't know, but with the way this franchise seems to always find a way to let its fans down, I'm not surprised that the NFL isn't a top priority.
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I wish Mark Cuban would do his part to save the NFL by buying the Chiefs and then getting to vote as an owner. Certainly a win-win... #****TheHunts
He called into the DP show just a little while ago and said he couldn't afford an NFL team. Dan asked him if he would want to be a part of one and he said if it were before he had kids sure, he would go after it. But not now with 3 kids and everything else he has going on he doesn't have the time.
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I watch the NFL differently than I used to. I don't really have a favorite team anymore. I just like good games.
I tell everyone I'm just as big of a fan to the NFL as I am the Chiefs. Not that I like the rest of the AFC west as I do the Chiefs. I just love football. I watch all their games, even if it's a crappy Thursday night matchup. I haven't missed a game in 40 years that's on prime time/Sundays. I have 3 TV's in the ManCave hooked up to Sunday Ticket. I've started watching a lot more college the last 2 seasons and have really come to like it now too.

Bring on more football.
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He called into the DP show just a little while ago and said he couldn't afford an NFL team. Dan asked him if he would want to be a part of one and he said if it were before he had kids sure, he would go after it. But not now with 3 kids and everything else he has going on he doesn't have the time.
Welp, kids are expensive!

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