I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

[Direckshun]

From the free agency megathread:

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 28s

The Raiders are signing QB Seneca Wallace after working him out, Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others

The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by KC native

Are you ****ing serious? Teo is ****ing slow and stupid.

Like Belcher, God Rest is Soul, was a sprinter and a scholar.

[O.city]

Our OL struggled at not being versatile last year. OL's need time together to gel, which is why I'm not big on keeping ALbert for a year, drafting a LT to play at RT for a year then moving him over.

Either trade Albert or draft a pass rusher. Or a DL. Or both and take Sheldon Richardson.

[KC native]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Like Belcher, God Rest is Soul, was a sprinter and a scholar.

**** belcher's soul. Teo would not step in at Belcher's level. He couldn't keep up against Bama. What the **** makes you think he will step into the NFL at a starter's level?

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by KC native

How dare you question the PhD mechanic! Don't you know that all his hours for his ASE cert make him an expert in everything?

oh shit. I remember that thread. ****ing golden.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Of all 32 teams today, the top 16 (successful) rosters were not all put together with QB's from the 1st round.

I'm not quoting the rest of your post because it all seemed to hinge on this loose piece of shit that you think invalidates me somehow. If you were paying attention, I already brought up this point. Obviously you weren't, though. The rest of the post is a gigantic ****ing lie that completely ignores what I'm trying to say.

Second of all, back the **** up. I only ever responded to you because you were extolling JustPassinBy's terrible and fallacious post. I'm not getting into a QB debate with someone like you. I thought it would be okay just to focus on that one argument, but clearly even that's beyond your reach.

Explain how I made JustPassinBy's argument misleading and off subject.

I'll wait.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

No, I am not advocating that. I never once stated that the selection would be based on the 1.1.

Again, try a little reading comprehension and stop making assumptions.

Then what the ****'s the point of bringing up impact with the 1.1 pick and then listing the positions you did? Sure as **** looked like you said, "The Chiefs can find an immediate impact player at any of these positions."

It's either that or you're backpedaling something fierce. I'm going to guess that's what you really meant.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by O.city

Our OL struggled at not being versatile last year. OL's need time together to gel, which is why I'm not big on keeping ALbert for a year, drafting a LT to play at RT for a year then moving him over.

Either trade Albert or draft a pass rusher. Or a DL. Or both and take Sheldon Richardson.

1. I'm for trading albert to get our 2 #2's back.
2. We don't need a pass rusher
3. We sure as **** don't need Richardson.

Originally Posted by KC native

**** belcher's soul. Teo would not step in at Belcher's level. He couldn't keep up against Bama. What the **** makes you think he will step into the NFL at a starter's level?

He would, in fact, step in at Belcher's level, because Te'o plays nearly the same type of game as Belcher does, filling in for him would be the most "comfortable" and "native" position he could probably find in the NFL. Whether or not he's slightly better or slightly worse doesn't matter, if we're talking marginal either way. Its not like Belcher was a Pro Bowler either.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

I said I'd draft them. I didn't say where.

YOU'RE SAYING THE CHIEFS SHOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR NEEDS AT SOME POINT IN THEIR DRAFT?

OH MY ****ING GOD WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THIS BEFORE?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

I'm not quoting the rest of your post because it all seemed to hinge on this loose piece of shit that you think invalidates me somehow. If you were paying attention, I already brought up this point. Obviously you weren't, though. The rest of the post is a gigantic ****ing lie that completely ignores what I'm trying to say.

Second of all, back the **** up. I only ever responded to you because you were extolling JustPassinBy's terrible and fallacious post. I'm not getting into a QB debate with someone like you. I thought it would be okay just to focus on that one argument, but clearly even that's beyond your reach.

Explain how I made JustPassinBy's argument misleading and off subject.

I'll wait.

Explain? Sure.

A/B comment about all of your friends building successful teams by drafting a QB in the first round. That simply is not true.

Point explained, I rest my case.

Off subject? Easy!

Suggesting that the only way to improve is by doing something we haven't done, IE, drafting a QB in the first round, EVEN IF WE DO NOT NEED ONE OR HE IS NOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.

That, is illogical. IE, lacking Logic.

Yet I'm the illogical one. Oh heavens SNR, you're smart, but you are so blindly opinionated that you often look stupid and foolish.

Originally Posted by SNR

Then what the ****'s the point of bringing up impact with the 1.1 pick and then listing the positions you did? Sure as **** looked like you said, "The Chiefs can find an immediate impact player at any of these positions."

It's either that or you're backpedaling something fierce. I'm going to guess that's what you really meant.

Or, and watch as I unveil the grand scheme here.

I simply named off guys we could pick in the first round that offer an upside over, whether we took them at 1.1 or 1.32, I didn't specify, nor did I need to.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

YOU'RE SAYING THE CHIEFS SHOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR NEEDS AT SOME POINT IN THEIR DRAFT?

OH MY ****ING GOD WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THIS BEFORE?

Because we were too busy thinking about what we could do with that 1.1 selecting a QB, which we've never done.

[MeatRock]

Drafting a QB or a pass rusher is the only option if Dorsey stays put at 1.1. QB's and pass rushers are the currency of the NFL in today's game.

If Alex Smith turns out to be great and a late bloomer while Geno turns out to be average, you can always trade QB's for high draft picks.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Drafting a QB or a pass rusher is the only option if Dorsey stays put at 1.1. QB's and pass rushers are the currency of the NFL in today's game.

If Alex Smith turns out to be great and a late bloomer while Geno turns out to be average, you can always trade QB's for high draft picks.

And I'll put a lifetime ban, me vs. you, that says that if we stay at the 1.1, we draft someone who isn't a pass rusher or QB.

Why?

Because we don't need one.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

And I'll put a lifetime ban, me vs. you, that says that if we stay at the 1.1, we draft someone who isn't a pass rusher or QB.

Why?

Because we don't need one.

**** you and your life time ban. I just don't care that much about you.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Would everyone just shut the **** up !!!

[O.city]

Are you guys still debating the "mechanic"?


Jesus, people here need to use the universal ignore. It's really glorious.