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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

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Old 06-21-2013, 09:26 PM   #2281
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The ball was hit when is was about 5 inches off the ground. He executed the pitch.
Which means he was probably looking for it. He'd already gone down there once. He needed to change Cruz's eye level.
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Kelly should be the 5th starter. Lyons needs to pack his bags and head back to AAA.
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Kelly should be the 5th starter. Lyons needs to pack his bags and head back to AAA.
Kelly earned the next start with his performance tonight.
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Kelly earned the next start with his performance tonight.
Ya its kind of wierd but Kelly seems to pitch a lot better as a starter. He comes in late inning relief and gets crushed.
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Kelly deserves to be #5. Hopefully Lynn can re-learn how to throw a breaking pitch or we are going to be in a world of shit with this rotation.
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We may have jinxed ourselves earlier by over boasting the pitching staff. We have some problems.
Who jinxed the Tigers, Rangers etc.? Shit happens. Thats why the old cliche "You never have enough pitching" became a cliche.
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Kelly deserves to be #5. Hopefully Lynn can re-learn how to throw a breaking pitch or we are going to be in a world of shit with this rotation.
Yeah, we need to have Waino, Miller and Lynn firing on all cylinders come playoff time. And we need another pitcher to step up for the 4th pitcher that is always needed.

I don't follow other teams as close as you do but isn't our pitching still in good shape or should be come playoff time when compared to other teams?
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Yeah, we need to have Waino, Miller and Lynn firing on all cylinders come playoff time. And we need another pitcher to step up for the 4th pitcher that is always needed.

I don't follow other teams as close as you do but isn't our pitching still in good shape or should be come playoff time when compared to other teams?
IF we make the playoffs our pitching will be deficient. As great as Miller has been he's still a rookie. He's going to throw more innings than he ever has, and it's likely that he will begin to show the effects of that wear and tear in August and September. He's never thrown more than 140 innings.

Lynn should be able to handle the workload, but if he can't get the feel for his breaking pitches he'll get slaughtered the second time through the lineup.

Westbrook is a #5 that we are going to need to pitch like a #3.

If you're the optimistic type, you can hope that Martinez or Wacha will develop enough and still have enough in the tank to give us critical post-season starts.

San Francisco's SP is quietly deficient. Cain is really good, but not great (and he's been average this year), Bumgarner is Garcia-esque, and Lincecum is no longer a viable starting option. Vogeldong's deal with the devil expired and he's hurt.

Arizona has Corbin, who would eat our lineup alive, but no one else is scary.

Cincy's rotation is filled with 2s and 3s: Cueto, Latos, Bailey, and Arroyo.

Atlanta's should be a little scary b/c Maholm is a soft-tossing lefty, Minor has been great and is their true ace, but Teheran is the wild-card. Plus, Beachy is coming back, but who knows what he'll give them.
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Who jinxed the Tigers, Rangers etc.? Shit happens. Thats why the old cliche "You never have enough pitching" became a cliche.
I'm superstitious thats all.
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