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Old 06-13-2018, 07:18 AM   Topic Starter
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Chris Conley Vs Demarcus Robinson

These guys are likely to be battling it out for the third WR role in the team once the season starts. So the question is who are yall backing to win the spot? I heard Ryan Tracy and his buddy Chris blowing smoke up Conley's ass yesterday, saying it would be "ridiculous" if Robinson gets in ahead of him and I wondered why on earth would that be the case? Conley has been here for three years and has the grand total of ONE TD to his name!!...ONE.

Now granted, he may have been held back by Smith a little, but Is there anything in his game that he has that Robinson doesn't have? Imo Robinson is quicker, he's more elusive, gets separation better and has shown he can make tough catches all over the field whether it's underneath or over the top. Yet the way those guys were talking about Conley, you would have thought he was Randy Moss part two .

I just look at the last two games Robinson played against Denver and the Titans and I thought he was very decent indeed. His connection with Mahomes should also work In his favor too. If Conley proves me wrong and becomes an important cog in the offense then I'll gladly hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. But I just don't see anything special about the guy at all. And with him having only one year left on his contract, Robinson would be the one worth investing in now I think.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:25 AM   #2
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Nate Taylor, the Chiefs beat guy for the Athletic, was on Petro's show last week and he said that Robinson was getting a lot of reps with the starters during OTAs. Granted it's just OTAs and the media only gets to watch one practice a day but I thought it was interesting.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:38 AM   #3
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Nate Taylor, the Chiefs beat guy for the Athletic, was on Petro's show last week and he said that Robinson was getting a lot of reps with the starters during OTAs. Granted it's just OTAs and the media only gets to watch one practice a day but I thought it was interesting.
Yep, I heard that too and Nate said, "and he's been catching everything and looks good", So it's gonna be very interesting to see what transpires through training camp and In the pre-season games. I'm betting that Demarcus wins the battle in the end because his potential is way higher than Conley's imo.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:42 AM   #4
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Yep, I heard that too and Nate said, "and he's been catching everything and looks good", So it's gonna be very interesting to see what transpires through training camp and In the pre-season games. I'm betting that Demarcus wins the battle in the end because his potential is way higher than Conley's imo.
In what way does he have more potential?

You say athletically, but that's not even close. Conley is objectively bigger, faster, jumps higher, ect.

I'm not particularly high on either guy... but Robinson had his chance last season and essentially shit the bed with his barely 50% catch rate (compared to Conley's 68%), multiple drops in few attempts, ect. Put it this way.

Conley needed 16 passes thrown his way to get 175 yards on 11 catches

Robinson had 39 passes thrown his way for 212 yards on 21 catches... 10.1 YPC.

I don't see where you're getting this. The eye test says Conley is a better athlete (as well as the combine) and he's more productive.

What do you like about Robinson?
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:50 AM   #5
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In what way does he have more potential?

You say athletically, but that's not even close. Conley is objectively bigger, faster, jumps higher, ect.

I'm not particularly high on either guy... but Robinson had his chance last season and essentially shit the bed with his barely 50% catch rate (compared to Conley's 68%), multiple drops in few attempts, ect. Put it this way.

Conley needed 16 passes thrown his way to get 175 yards on 11 catches

Robinson had 39 passes thrown his way for 212 yards on 21 catches... 10.1 YPC.

I don't see where you're getting this. The eye test says Conley is a better athlete (as well as the combine) and he's more productive.

What do you like about Robinson?
The hype for Robinson started last OTA's right before Maclin was cut. Then he made those huge splash plays in preseason against the Titans, and had another good game against the Titans in the playoffs. The nephew of a former NFL WR, Robinson has always had talent, and he's flashed, so it's easy to understand why fans may expect a break out season from him.

But i agree, he's not the athlete that Conley is and doesn't have the hands or production that Conley does. But one guy is returning from a season ending injury and the other is building on his first season with any significant playing time. So it will in fact be a camp battle.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:28 AM   #6
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The hype for Robinson started last OTA's right before Maclin was cut. Then he made those huge splash plays in preseason against the Titans, and had another good game against the Titans in the playoffs. The nephew of a former NFL WR, Robinson has always had talent, and he's flashed, so it's easy to understand why fans may expect a break out season from him.

But i agree, he's not the athlete that Conley is and doesn't have the hands or production that Conley does. But one guy is returning from a season ending injury and the other is building on his first season with any significant playing time. So it will in fact be a camp battle.
Being a good "athlete" is only one part of the game though. Demarcus is more elusive, gets separation much better and has made catches that are simply incredible. Robinson has the potential to be a game changer imo. I've seen no evidence that Conley is anything other than a possession guy.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:26 AM   #7
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In what way does he have more potential?

You say athletically, but that's not even close. Conley is objectively bigger, faster, jumps higher, ect.

I'm not particularly high on either guy... but Robinson had his chance last season and essentially shit the bed with his barely 50% catch rate (compared to Conley's 68%), multiple drops in few attempts, ect. Put it this way.

Conley needed 16 passes thrown his way to get 175 yards on 11 catches

Robinson had 39 passes thrown his way for 212 yards on 21 catches... 10.1 YPC.

I don't see where you're getting this. The eye test says Conley is a better athlete (as well as the combine) and he's more productive.

What do you like about Robinson?
I can show you evidence actually. HERE is where the drive started against the Titans when he got his TD. I caught four balls in that drive on the left, middle and right-hand side of the field. And all of them he got separation with the last catch coming after he dodged a jam and juked another defender.

And In THIS preseason game against the Titans he made three big catches too.

Now, show me evidence that Conley has this sort of elusiveness, separation and catching skills in his arsenal!!!..I'd love to see it.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:04 AM   #8
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I can show you evidence actually. HERE is where the drive started against the Titans when he got his TD. I caught four balls in that drive on the left, middle and right-hand side of the field. And all of them he got separation with the last catch coming after he dodged a jam and juked another defender.

And In THIS preseason game against the Titans he made three big catches too.

Now, show me evidence that Conley has this sort of elusiveness, separation and catching skills in his arsenal!!!..I'd love to see it.
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I can show you evidence actually. HERE is where the drive started against the Titans when he got his TD. I caught four balls in that drive on the left, middle and right-hand side of the field. And all of them he got separation with the last catch coming after he dodged a jam and juked another defender.

And In THIS preseason game against the Titans he made three big catches too.

Now, show me evidence that Conley has this sort of elusiveness, separation and catching skills in his arsenal!!!..I'd love to see it.
Interesting slip of the tongue there.
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I hope they battle and the best player wins. I don't have a favorite. If one outperforms the other in training camp then he deserves the spot over the other guy.
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Conley was planting really well before the injury. Had a lot of tough catches on 3rd down. Appeared to have really solid hands. Unless the injury hampered it his top end speed should be far better than Robinson.

Robinson had a couple bad drops. His top end is pretty slow. But his quickness and agility is better and should have a higher probability of making significant improvements than Conley and I THINK has less injury history.
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Conley runs a 4.3 something to keep in mind
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Conley will be our #3 and Robinson our #4, I predict.

More importantly, did you know De'Anthony Thomas is still on the team? In fact, we resigned him three months ago ( albeit just for a one year contract ).
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I prefer Robinson. I feel like Conley is limited. He has stiffness. He is decent but Robinson seems to have more potential.
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More importantly, did you know De'Anthony Thomas is still on the team? In fact, we resigned him three months ago ( albeit just for a one year contract ).

He actually took less to stay in KC. I thought I remember reading a couple teams were after him.
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