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Carlota69 · 02-07-2013, 09:16 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain

(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.

**Buck** · 02-12-2013, 07:45 PM

NBC just said a law enforcement agent heard a single gunshot from inside the cabin before it caught on fire.

HoneyBadger · 02-12-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I agree with you here but who knows overall. What if somebody really is trying to cover something? You just can't throw away the workings of our system, no matter the circumstances. There are going to be times when you can't get a guy in alive, but you should be doing everything you can to prevent that.

And I think they tried. He could have drove himself to a police station and turned himself in. When he makes statements that he will be armed and go out shooting, all that legal system stuff kinda goes by the wayside.

unlurking · 02-12-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Then let them possibly kill him in custody?
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Jesus ****ing Christ dude?!?!

Are you ****ing reeruned?!?!

You expect him to get a trial while never seeing a cop?!?! Maybe they can just do it over Skype?!?!

**SAUTO** · 02-12-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

They did. They will be paid. No doubt.

That doesn't take away the fact Dorner wanted to die. He said so. He went out just like he wanted. It was his last wish, and it was granted.

he asked to be burnt alive?

Actually he asked for someone to apologize for falsely ruining his life. Then he would quit
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NJChiefsFan · 02-12-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

They did. They will be paid. No doubt.

That doesn't take away the fact Dorner wanted to die. He said so. He went out just like he wanted. It was his last wish, and it was granted.

And I wouldn't blame the cops under a number of circumstances for Dorner ending up dead. Obviously the guy could just run outside and start shooting. Nobody would blame the cops for shooting him then. But we are arguing under the idea that the cops have the right at this point to kill him and that's what myself and others are disagreeing with.

lcarus · 02-12-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

yes they can in a gun fight.

Burning the house down?
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Yeah the burning the house down is just bizarre. Seems clearly intentional to me as well. Just a crazy situation.

**dirk digler** · 02-12-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Then let them possibly kill him in custody?
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So you didn't want him to surrender?

KChiefer · 02-12-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

Jesus ****ing Christ dude?!?!

Are you ****ing reeruned?!?!

You expect him to get a trial while never seeing a cop?!?! Maybe they can just do it over Skype?!?!

Dudes gone full reerun.

HoneyBadger · 02-12-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Being shitty at your job is no excuse for shooting innocent people. That is attempted manslaughter at the least, and they will never do jail time. ****ing shitty cop apologist.

It's not an excuse. It happened.

**pr_capone** · 02-12-2013, 07:48 PM

The mayor of LA has some seriously gigantic ears. He could put out that cabin fire from where he stands just by flapping them.

**mlyonsd** · 02-12-2013, 07:48 PM

I'm guessing Dorner set the fire and then shot himself to make it appear the police burned him to death.

**SAUTO** · 02-12-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking

Jesus ****ing Christ dude?!?!

Are you ****ing reeruned?!?!

You expect him to get a trial while never seeing a cop?!?! Maybe they can just do it over Skype?!?!

are you?

The FBI should have, IMO, taken all of this over quite some time ago. Local sheriff, police, especially ANYONE related to the lapd should have taken a back seat.

laps obviously just wanted him dead.
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unlurking · 02-12-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Yeah the burning the house down is just bizarre. Seems clearly intentional to me as well. Just a crazy situation.

Do we have proof the cops burned the house down to kill him? Do they deserve a fair trial or are we just going to assume they're guilty (highly probable).

NJChiefsFan · 02-12-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

And I think they tried. He could have drove himself to a police station and turned himself in. When he makes statements that he will be armed and go out shooting, all that legal system stuff kinda goes by the wayside.

If the guy does something that forces the cops to shoot him then I don't have an issue with it. But at some point in this thread it became almost a hypothetical of if the cops should be allowed to kill him just to stop the risk of more things. About the argument with the fire. That's what I have an issue with. It may suck, but unless they are in immediate danger with this guy killing him is not right. And when I say not right, I don't say it with any sympathy towards the guy, I say it about our system and protecting it.

Cops don't have the right to be judge and jury. In order to protect this, you can't give it to them ever, not even in an obvious situation.

**dirk digler** · 02-12-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd

I'm guessing Dorner set the fire and then shot himself to make it appear the police burned him to death.

Sounds plausible.

02-07-2013, 09:16 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain (CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities. Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California. The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings. Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California. Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine. Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday. "I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN. The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department. He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name." Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous." "Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement. CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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