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Old 05-10-2006, 09:24 AM  
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Does the United States of America have an obligation to spread democracy?

Through economic, maybe military means? What are your thoughts?
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:22 PM   #46
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Is our own "democracy" spoiled somehow because of the presence of French troops during our revolution?

'Hamas' didn't say anything about imposing democracy. If that's what he's talking about, I'd have to agree that you can't impose democracy on people who don't want it. OTOH, I see no reason why people who do want democracy can't be liberated from an oppressor who stands in their way. We liberated France during WWII and they re-established a democracy.
Isn't that the clear implication of this thread title?? How could any sane person say that we aren't imposing democracy on Iraq? Of course we are 'spreading' democracy rather than returning previously democratic places to democracy or enabling democratic movements to burgeon.
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Old 05-14-2006, 07:12 AM   #47
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You need to read the whole sentence to get his jist. You appear to have stopped at the comma. Here's the whole sentence (I've bolded the part you missed):

"What I don't understand is why it's always the conservative side who are such bleeding hearts for speading democracy, but ask them about helping people at home, and they freak out about it, complaining about how their tax dollars are being spent."
No, I didn't miss anything. IMO the two parts of that sentence are independent of one another (other than the obvious fact that you need the first part to know who "them," "they," and "their" are in the second part). The "always" OTOH, has to be completely ignored for your interpretation to be right. Why does it not surprise me that you're on the nonstandard-English side of an interpretation argument again?
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Old 05-14-2006, 07:14 AM   #48
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Isn't that the clear implication of this thread title??
No.
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Old 05-14-2006, 11:28 AM   #49
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No, I didn't miss anything. IMO the two parts of that sentence are independent of one another (other than the obvious fact that you need the first part to know who "them," "they," and "their" are in the second part). The "always" OTOH, has to be completely ignored for your interpretation to be right. Why does it not surprise me that you're on the nonstandard-English side of an interpretation argument again?
When "always" is used as an obvious figure of speech for the purpose of emphasis, then it isn't supposed to be taken as a literal synonym for "only." C'mon, patteeu, I'd expect a standard word-for-word transliteration of each term in the sentence from a non-native speaker who isn't familiar with the loose construction of everyday English and therefore doesn't know any better, but you're a native speaker, I presume, and you're smarter than that.
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