Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 561

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Sure-Oz · 07-31-2013, 02:11 PM

GMDM seriously wants .500 so he can get that extension

duncan_idaho · 07-31-2013, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier

The scouts have been crackerjack so far under Moore.

Not Royals scouts. Others.

If Law, Cooper and Parks agree on a prospect - and they all agree Smith is a small guy with fringe stuff - it's tough to argue with that.

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier

The scouts have been crackerjack so far under Moore.

Well, clearly the Royals scouts have problems. I'm talking the national guys.

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:13 PM

If we hear nothing by about 4 or 4:30, then we know that this is the only trade. Last-second deals usually don't take 2 hours to report.

**DeezNutz** · 07-31-2013, 02:14 PM

OK, Smith out of the loop, Maxwell helps us how?

Is Cain's vagina broken? Do we have confirmation from his gynecologist?

Strongside · 07-31-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

OK, Smith out of the loop, Maxwell helps us how?

Is Cain's vagina broken? Do we have confirmation from his gynecologist?

He will platoon with Lough, I'm thinking. The Royals are hoping his power numbers so far this season are a direct result of his injury problems and that he'll provide some pop to a corner OF spot.

Archie F. Swin · 07-31-2013, 02:18 PM

Well, Ventura is still on the farm. I guess that's a positive.

Sure-Oz · 07-31-2013, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

OK, Smith out of the loop, Maxwell helps us how?

Is Cain's vagina broken? Do we have confirmation from his gynecologist?

Out of tonights lineup so probably torn

**DeezNutz** · 07-31-2013, 02:18 PM

Defensively, Maxwell has been a negative WAR player according to BR.

And Lough's splits are just fine: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&year=2013&t=b

tyton75 · 07-31-2013, 02:21 PM

My guess is, Lough is still the starter and Maxwell will either be in if Cain is hurt; and/or a spot starter against lefties.

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Defensively, Maxwell has been a negative WAR player according to BR.

And Lough's splits are just fine: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&year=2013&t=b

If Cain's out, then he might be a platoon for Dyson. Which is why I'm wondering if Cain's hurt, its the only way this makes much sense.

nychief · 07-31-2013, 02:23 PM

They will Platoon.

WhawhaWhat · 07-31-2013, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

So he's a conduit of stupidity. Sounds like a lot to love.

You must send him lots of questions.

**alnorth** · 07-31-2013, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Out of tonights lineup so probably torn

Yeah, not in lineup. Weren't we hearing all day yesterday that Cain was coming back today?

siberian khatru · 07-31-2013, 02:25 PM

Is there not a 2B equivalent of a Justin Maxwell, anywhere?

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1870308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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