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Old 08-13-2013, 08:22 AM   #2656
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Jesse might kill himself in front of Walt.


I honestly think the Jesse is the only person Walt truly cares about anymore.
This was made obvious in the episode by Walt calling him 'Son' in this episode.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:31 AM   #2657
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This was made obvious in the episode by Walt calling him 'Son' in this episode.
I must have missed it.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:37 AM   #2658
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I watched the latest episode again last night and I still have a problem with the change in Jessie from one episode to the next. prev episode he got the 5 million that he deamanded Walt give him. CLICK - next episode he's trying to give it all away. me no likee.
I also thought the Jesse mood swing was a bit much. Yeah, he doesn't like the killing, he doesn't like that people died. But now he's suddenly so upset that he's throwing his money away? I mean, the guy was a ****ing meth dealer. He was killing people and helping to ruin lives every day.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:53 AM   #2659
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guys....tell me...I forget....but what EXACTLY in that signature made Hank KNOW...for SURE...it's Walt?
Gale didn't sign his name to it. he said something like "to my other W.W. my other inspiration" or something like that.
but what exactly clicked. what was it. I just can't remember and I'm too lazy to go on Amazon and watch it again.
In an episode a couple seasons ago Hank was looking through Gale's notebook with Walt was sitting right next to him. There was a quote from Leaves of Grass in it and the initials WW. Hank jokes that WW could mean Walter White and Walt jokes back "You got me!"

So when he saw the WW in the inscription in the book in Walt's bathroom, it clicked that the book was from Gale and that Walt and Gale were linked.
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:58 AM   #2660
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In an episode a couple seasons ago Hank was looking through Gale's notebook with Walt was sitting right next to him. There was a quote from Leaves of Grass in it and the initials WW. Hank jokes that WW could mean Walter White and Walt jokes back "You got me!"

So when he saw the WW in the inscription in the book in Walt's bathroom, it clicked that the book was from Gale and that Walt and Gale were linked.
RIGHT!
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it was seeing that W.W. again! he's all.....wait a minute....I saw this in Gales stuff. THIS IS GALES SIGNATURE!


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Old 08-13-2013, 09:05 AM   #2661
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I also thought the Jesse mood swing was a bit much. Yeah, he doesn't like the killing, he doesn't like that people died. But now he's suddenly so upset that he's throwing his money away? I mean, the guy was a ****ing meth dealer. He was killing people and helping to ruin lives every day.
The mood swing was because

A. Mike is gone.
B. He knows that there really is no way out now. Plus he's still ****ing depressed about the kid that died in the desert.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:15 AM   #2662
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The mood swing was because

A. Mike is gone.
B. He knows that there really is no way out now. Plus he's still ****ing depressed about the kid that died in the desert.
Yeah, I understand. I just think it seems a bit much. Mike was a killer and the enforcer for a drug lord. The kid was innocent, but Jesse would have been fine with selling him meth and ruining his life. The depression, to the extent of literally throwing away his money, just seems a little phony.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:31 AM   #2663
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I've been rewatching the first half of season 5. There was a scene where Walt, Walt Jr, and the baby were watching the ending scene in Scarface. Walt remarked "Boy, EVERYONE dies in this story." That makes me think in the end that everyone will be gone and Walt will go out in a Scarface type blow em up, nothing to lose type scene.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:33 AM   #2664
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:27 AM   #2665
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The mood swing was because

A. Mike is gone.
B. He knows that there really is no way out now. Plus he's still ****ing depressed about the kid that died in the desert.

I disagree. this makes no sense.
he IS OUT. he is DONE.

Walt gave gave the 5 mill and he is free now.

he can split anytime he wants. yet....inexplicably...he's being a whiny bitch throwing his money out the car window.

I love this show....but this part of this story is stupid stupid stupid.
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I've been rewatching the first half of season 5. There was a scene where Walt, Walt Jr, and the baby were watching the ending scene in Scarface. Walt remarked "Boy, EVERYONE dies in this story." That makes me think in the end that everyone will be gone and Walt will go out in a Scarface type blow em up, nothing to lose type scene.
that scene made me think the opposite. maybe Walt will be the only one left.....
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:37 AM   #2667
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I disagree. this makes no sense.
he IS OUT. he is DONE.

Walt gave gave the 5 mill and he is free now.

he can split anytime he wants. yet....inexplicably...he's being a whiny bitch throwing his money out the car window.

I love this show....but this part of this story is stupid stupid stupid.
He is not free. Everyone he has ever cared about he has lost. The money is a constant reminder of this.
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I disagree. this makes no sense.
he IS OUT. he is DONE.

Walt gave gave the 5 mill and he is free now.

he can split anytime he wants. yet....inexplicably...he's being a whiny bitch throwing his money out the car window.

I love this show....but this part of this story is stupid stupid stupid.
Dude....what?

You think he can just ****ing up and leave? He's tied to Walter White. He has to constantly watch his back and he has NO ONE around as support.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #2669
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I'm thinking the Chech's are after Walter and he is out to get them. The ricin is for him or Jesse.
I dont see why theyd come after him with everyone dead and that would make for a rather short story to play out in just the final 7 episodes.

Though the dealer he got his grande gun from did explicitly mention he didnt want the gun to end up on the other side of the border.

I still think or starting to think its possible that Hank ends up dead and Walt is somehow responsible - though I have trouble seeing him do it himself unless backed into a no choice corner. Hank dead, and Marie or Steve discover Walt when going through all the case file boxes he had delivered to the house.

That'd be crazy if Marie end up being the one to take out Walt for Hank. Walt would never see it coming and completely with his guard down. Lets not forget she has her own masked self- the compulsive shoplifter, and she was the one that lost her temper and drove over the RC car- which made an appearance last night as you watched Walt following in as he pulled up to Hank's place and was very attentive to avoid the RC car.

Was old Walt a man thought capable of murder - by how Hank treated Walt, it was almost as if he looked at him about as formidable as Junior and completely clueless of the very real threat and source of his obsession Walt actually was. Same goes for Jesse- a lost twerp with little direction and only guilty of rather minor and harmless mischief as a 2 bit dealer/cook that was essentially making some walking money and a pizza here and there. Then pushed by the circumstance goes deadeye killer staring Gail eye to eye before firing off the killshot point blank. Mind you, Gail wasn't even a transgressor, paying for deeds in any retributive manner of justice like with killing Crazy 8 given his death was reactive to his initial attempt to kill Walt and Jesse, and then planning a second attempt with dish shard.

Not saying it will happen, but Marie's motive should Hank die is more than plausible as Breaking Bad has consistly drawn from the idea of trying to rationalize away any heinous act as Walt has done over and over falling prey to the idea that his superior intellect grants him the privilege of assuming his logical deduction soundly wraps him in absolution by means of justification for his actions which is so often played up for the noble cause of his love and devoution to his family no matter because the ends will always justify the means. He clearly played that card in accepting to poison a child to manipulate Jesse, and once again invokes family when hashing it out with Hank in the attempt to emotional neuter Hank to sit on his discovery.

Notice that in the conversation with Jesse he never once says anything like, I didnt kill Mike. In the scene he consistly utters at least 3 or more times I need you to believe me. Jesse has it figured out, and Walt precisely phrases his need for Jesse to believe him, because Walt is now truly the bad guy and his homelife, father role is his "make believe" mask, so Jesse needs to believe and get back on board with keeping up with shirade of appearances.
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I dont see why theyd come after him with everyone dead and that would make for a rather short story to play out in just the final 7 episodes.

Though the dealer he got his grande gun from did explicitly mention he didnt want the gun to end up on the other side of the border.

I still think or starting to think its possible that Hank ends up dead and Walt is somehow responsible - though I have trouble seeing him do it himself unless backed into a no choice corner. Hank dead, and Marie or Steve discover Walt when going through all the case file boxes he had delivered to the house.

That'd be crazy if Marie end up being the one to take out Walt for Hank. Walt would never see it coming and completely with his guard down. Lets not forget she has her own masked self- the compulsive shoplifter, and she was the one that lost her temper and drove over the RC car- which made an appearance last night as you watched Walt following in as he pulled up to Hank's place and was very attentive to avoid the RC car.

Was old Walt a man thought capable of murder - by how Hank treated Walt, it was almost as if he looked at him about as formidable as Junior and completely clueless of the very real threat and source of his obsession Walt actually was. Same goes for Jesse- a lost twerp with little direction and only guilty of rather minor and harmless mischief as a 2 bit dealer/cook that was essentially making some walking money and a pizza here and there. Then pushed by the circumstance goes deadeye killer staring Gail eye to eye before firing off the killshot point blank. Mind you, Gail wasn't even a transgressor, paying for deeds in any retributive manner of justice like with killing Crazy 8 given his death was reactive to his initial attempt to kill Walt and Jesse, and then planning a second attempt with dish shard.

Not saying it will happen, but Marie's motive should Hank die is more than plausible as Breaking Bad has consistly drawn from the idea of trying to rationalize away any heinous act as Walt has done over and over falling prey to the idea that his superior intellect grants him the privilege of assuming his logical deduction soundly wraps him in absolution by means of justification for his actions which is so often played up for the noble cause of his love and devoution to his family no matter because the ends will always justify the means. He clearly played that card in accepting to poison a child to manipulate Jesse, and once again invokes family when hashing it out with Hank in the attempt to emotional neuter Hank to sit on his discovery.

Notice that in the conversation with Jesse he never once says anything like, I didnt kill Mike. In the scene he consistly utters at least 3 or more times I need you to believe me. Jesse has it figured out, and Walt precisely phrases his need for Jesse to believe him, because Walt is now truly the bad guy and his homelife, father role is his "make believe" mask, so Jesse needs to believe and get back on board with keeping up with shirade of appearances.
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