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Old 02-28-2009, 11:12 PM  
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Crennel pondering offer to become Chiefs D.C.

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Waiting on Romeo: Former Browns coach Romeo Crennel is convalescing from successful hip replacement surgery and weighing an offer to become the defensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Chiefs are holding the position open for Crennel, who is waiting to learn exactly how long his rehabilitation process will keep him out. The Chiefs may have enticed Crennel a little bit more by trading for New England linebacker Mike Vrabel.

Whether or not Crennel accepts, he has decided not to remain with the Browns in an unspecified role offered by Mangini.

Crennel previously declined an offer to rejoin Charlie Weis as Notre Dame's defensive coordinator. Crennel and Weis were Belichick's coordinators during New England's three Super Bowl championship seasons.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:28 PM   #31
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Well um he was fine as a DC but not so much as a HC so I guess the question you should ask yourself is was that defense him or Belichick?
I think it was pretty clearly more Belichick. But Crennel was D-coordinator for 3 Superbowl winning Pats teams, including the one that stopped the seemingly unbeatable Rams in 2001. I'll take a guy with a record of success over guys with dubious records at best.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:29 PM   #32
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Raji is worth the 3rd overall?

Is someone really gonna take him before 10-15?
For once we get a 3 pick; ...and we're sort of in no-mans land.

I hope we can find a willing trade partner; maybe in the 6 to 9 range.


gonna be a fun draft.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:29 PM   #33
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I don't think Curry sucks but if we're going 3-4 I don't want to take a LB with the 3rd pick...if they stay there you go Raji you can take a LB if you end up moving into the 8-15 range.
What compensation would you expect for moving down in the 8-15 range?

A 2nd?
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:29 PM   #34
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I don't think Curry sucks but if we're going 3-4 I don't want to take a LB with the 3rd pick...if they stay there you go Raji you can take a LB if you end up moving into the 8-15 range.
It's supposed to be a pretty deep draft for picking up 3/4 linebacker prospects. Toss in Vrabel to help steady the corps, and I think you could well be looking at Raji at the nose with Dorsey as one end.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:29 PM   #35
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Raji is worth the 3rd overall?

Is someone really gonna take him before 10-15?
He moved himself up the board...I think his lowest landing spot is probably GB who is also switching to the 3-4 and doesn't have a nose.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:30 PM   #36
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I wonder what Crennel coming here would do to a potential(I know) situation of a trade with Cleveland for a certain, unnamed disgruntled nose tackle?
oooohhhhh good thoughts
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It's supposed to be a pretty deep draft for picking up 3/4 linebacker prospects. Toss in Vrabel to help steady the corps, and I think you could well be looking at Raji at the nose with Dorsey as one end.
Look we agreed about something.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:30 PM   #38
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I'm not doubting his talent, Frank.

But if you're comparing him to Willis (which I think you're being generous) and Willis went 11th (IIRC) overall, how can you justify taking him 3rd?
Look at that draft class. There was some very very good players that went in the top 10. Some were reaches, but overall, very solid.
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What compensation would you expect for moving down in the 8-15 range?

A 2nd?
If it's closer to 15 way more actually you should get more than a 2 if you drop to 8...
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:31 PM   #40
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I'm not doubting his talent, Frank.

But if you're comparing him to Willis (which I think you're being generous) and Willis went 11th (IIRC) overall, how can you justify taking him 3rd?
Because I don't think that drafts are just a cookie cutter every year where you can say, "well this guy went this late one year, and if he's comparable to (x) player, he has to go this late."

There are too many variables in drafts like needs of teams ahead of you, strength of draft class to put a basic formula into play to say "this position is a reach at this pick."

The top half of that 2007 draft was stocked with talent. Joe Thomas, Calvin, Adrian Peterson, Gaines Adams, Landry.

Patrick Willis in this 2009 draft would go in the top 3.
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Look at that draft class. There was some very very good players that went in the top 10. Some were reaches, but overall, very solid.
i asked about that earlier
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:33 PM   #42
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A team that is going to be switching to 3-4 should be valuing a NT a hell of alot more than they are a cover backer that plays in the middle in their scheme..
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:33 PM   #43
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Look we agreed about something.
This is total speculation and I don't see any sign of it happening, but picture the Chiefs defense if they drafted Raji, moved Dorsey to end and picked up Chris Canty.
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:33 PM   #45
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Look at that draft class. There was some very very good players that went in the top 10. Some were reaches, but overall, very solid.
And there will be in this draft as well.

Unfortunately for us, 5 of them (the best and most valuable 5, IMO) are worthless to us.

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