What WR are we going to draft in round one next year? - Page 2

CanadaKC · 10-14-2005, 03:47 PM

It's a given is it not?

Hammock Parties · 10-14-2005, 05:20 PM

If Vermeil stays on another year (god forbid) I don't want us taking another defensive linemen. Take a WR.

Otherwise, D-line all the way. Probably defensive tackle.

chiefsfaninNC · 10-14-2005, 05:34 PM

OT with the first pick, both Roaf and Shields are done after this year. Black or Welborne can step in at guard. DT with the 2nd and 3rd. Following rounds best athletes that are left. Hopefully a corner and more o line. Free agency we need to pick up a number one receiver.

tk13 · 10-14-2005, 05:40 PM

Eh, it all depends, I'd just as soon go CB, DE, or OL.... depends on what FA WR's are out there. Also depends on who the coach is too...

HolmeZz · 10-14-2005, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

lemme see

needs:

DE (do we have a decent one on the freakin roster?)
DT (neverending bottomless pit)
OT (we might not if black and sampson progress)
WR (parker is still learning)
FS (wesley is not a nature free safety IMO )
CB (warfield is nothing to write home about, but is clearly are #2)

DE - Yeah, we have about 4 decent ones. That just happens to be the problem. They're no better than decent.
DT - A big weakness. Needs to be addressed.
OT - We've got a ton of young guys here. Hopefully atleast one can pan out.
WR - Need a playmaker.
FS - Wesley's played fine. Bartee can play the position too.
CB - I want to see how Eric plays first. He should be better being teamed up with an all-pro corner, but his failure wouldn't surprise me.

CanadaKC · 10-14-2005, 05:55 PM

How many draft sites say the Chiefs have the worst WR tandem in the league? They certainly don't scare anybody...which makes it so easy for defenses to double-team Gonzo. Otherwise...it's the Priest/LJ running show a la Roaf and Shields. Not too hard to figure out...and Green's numbers are waaaaaay down. I guess we'll see what DT's are there...Rod Wright from Texas would be awesome...but he'll be gone.

**RealSNR** · 10-14-2005, 05:59 PM

I'd prefer we dont' draft more Dlinemen. We all know how that works out.

I say draft Oline for future starters or a WR just to get some ****ing talent at that position.

tk13 · 10-14-2005, 05:59 PM

Well if you want instant gratification at the WR position, I'm not sure the draft is the way to go unless you have a top 5-10 pick. Even then, that's no sure thing. Most any WR we picked in the 1st round would at least take 2-3 years to make the impact expected.... it's possible but I wouldn't expect it.

Chiefnj · 10-14-2005, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

DE - Yeah, we have about 4 decent ones. That just happens to be the problem. They're no better than decent.
DT - A big weakness. Needs to be addressed.
OT - We've got a ton of young guys here. Hopefully atleast one can pan out.
WR - Need a playmaker.
FS - Wesley's played fine. Bartee can play the position too.
CB - I want to see how Eric plays first. He should be better being teamed up with an all-pro corner, but his failure wouldn't surprise me.

IMO, Wesley has been a huge liability in pass defense.

CanadaKC · 10-14-2005, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Most any WR we picked in the 1st round would at least take 2-3 years to make the impact expected.... it's possible but I wouldn't expect it.

...you can literally say that about any position...
although there have been exceptions...like Moss and Vilma to name a few...a very few. Other top picks like DT Dewayne Robertson of the Jets is finally coming into his own...but it's been a couple years. I'm still wondering if OT "Mount" Mckennie of the Vikes is ever going to develop into the stud he was flaunted as. How about Chris Samuels of the Skins? Not very impressive. It appears a toss-up at those positions as well (OT, DT)...so I'd go WR.

Frankie · 10-14-2005, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

lemme see

needs:

DE (do we have a decent one on the freakin roster?)
DT (neverending bottomless pit)
OT (we might not if black and sampson progress)
WR (parker is still learning)
FS (wesley is not a nature free safety IMO )
CB (warfield is nothing to write home about, but is clearly are #2)

All in all, I'd rather we got a solid DT and/or OT as FA rather than have to rely on a rookie next year. Unless a blue chip immediate starter is available when we pick in the first. That would be a tall order seeing our cap situation won't be much good.

CanadaKC · 10-14-2005, 06:45 PM

Let me mention this again....most if not all football geeks (expert or otherwise) say we have the worst WR tandem in the league....and I'd have to agree. We cannot afford a stud WR FA...
so it appears to be a no-brainer to be. But who knows what Carl will do...

10-14-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfaninNC

OT with the first pick, both Roaf and Shields are done after this year. Black or Welborne can step in at guard. DT with the 2nd and 3rd. Following rounds best athletes that are left. Hopefully a corner and more o line. Free agency we need to pick up a number one receiver.

Exactly . 2nd round either DT or WR.

You can't do anything in football without the bigboys. You can find free agent WR but not great OT s'.

10-14-2005, 10:01 PM

We also haven't drafted smart for WRs'.

We could have had some decent guys with hands but chose not take them because lack of 4.3 40 time.

ZootedGranny · 10-14-2005, 10:08 PM

I haven't seen a guy yet that sticks out as a must have WR prospect in this upcoming class.

You've got a bunch of guys that have potential, like Hagan, Breaston, Holmes, Ginn, Jarrett, etc...but nobody like a Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson. The closest guy in my opinion is Calvin Johnson, but he likely won't come out for a couple of more years.

nomad · 10-14-2005, 10:16 PM

The Chiefs are masters in the drafting of the "second tier" talent.......... i.e. wherever a position is deep, instead of taking one of the many,they will reach at another position and come back to what was the positional strength of the draft and pick up 8-9 best prospect.

So between the reach, and the passing of one the many high ranked at a position, they end up with chit!

I think they tend to focus on finding a speck on the desk, and miss the elephant in the middle of the room.

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10-14-2005, 05:20 PM	#16
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10-14-2005, 05:34 PM	#17
chiefsfaninNC Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Casino cash: $10004900	OT with the first pick, both Roaf and Shields are done after this year. Black or Welborne can step in at guard. DT with the 2nd and 3rd. Following rounds best athletes that are left. Hopefully a corner and more o line. Free agency we need to pick up a number one receiver.
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10-14-2005, 05:40 PM	#18
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2032500	Eh, it all depends, I'd just as soon go CB, DE, or OL.... depends on what FA WR's are out there. Also depends on who the coach is too...
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10-14-2005, 05:55 PM	#20
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6628668	How many draft sites say the Chiefs have the worst WR tandem in the league? They certainly don't scare anybody...which makes it so easy for defenses to double-team Gonzo. Otherwise...it's the Priest/LJ running show a la Roaf and Shields. Not too hard to figure out...and Green's numbers are waaaaaay down. I guess we'll see what DT's are there...Rod Wright from Texas would be awesome...but he'll be gone.
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10-14-2005, 05:59 PM	#22
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2032500	Well if you want instant gratification at the WR position, I'm not sure the draft is the way to go unless you have a top 5-10 pick. Even then, that's no sure thing. Most any WR we picked in the 1st round would at least take 2-3 years to make the impact expected.... it's possible but I wouldn't expect it.
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10-14-2005, 06:45 PM	#26
CanadaKC Lord of the SB Rings Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Casino cash: $6628668	Let me mention this again....most if not all football geeks (expert or otherwise) say we have the worst WR tandem in the league....and I'd have to agree. We cannot afford a stud WR FA... so it appears to be a no-brainer to be. But who knows what Carl will do...
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10-14-2005, 10:01 PM	#28
chief99 Guest Casino cash: $	We also haven't drafted smart for WRs'. We could have had some decent guys with hands but chose not take them because lack of 4.3 40 time.
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10-14-2005, 10:08 PM	#29
ZootedGranny Chump Steamroller Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: . Casino cash: $10015042	I haven't seen a guy yet that sticks out as a must have WR prospect in this upcoming class. You've got a bunch of guys that have potential, like Hagan, Breaston, Holmes, Ginn, Jarrett, etc...but nobody like a Fitzgerald or Andre Johnson. The closest guy in my opinion is Calvin Johnson, but he likely won't come out for a couple of more years.
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10-14-2005, 10:16 PM	#30
nomad Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: OC, CAL. Casino cash: $10004900	The Chiefs are masters in the drafting of the "second tier" talent.......... i.e. wherever a position is deep, instead of taking one of the many,they will reach at another position and come back to what was the positional strength of the draft and pick up 8-9 best prospect. So between the reach, and the passing of one the many high ranked at a position, they end up with chit! I think they tend to focus on finding a speck on the desk, and miss the elephant in the middle of the room.
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