Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 578

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

AndChiefs · 08-02-2013, 03:36 PM

Cain, best defender of the month.

ESPN article

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-03-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs

Cain, best defender of the month.

ESPN article

That's cool. Cain really is turning into one of the best defenders in the game.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-03-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Jeff Francoeur | Outfielder
Latest NewsRecent News
Jeff Francoeur went 0-for-3 before being removed for a pinch-hitter Thursday and is 0-for-15 in his last four games. Francoeur isn't even capable of that new-team boost any longer; he's hitting .167 with no homers and no runs scored in 42 at-bats for the Giants. Now that the Giants are done, they should just release and give his at-bats to Roger Kieschnick and Francisco Peguero

Just retire, man. You're done.

Prison Bitch · 08-03-2013, 09:52 AM

But he's such a good "clubhouse presence". Hudler needs to retire that tired phrase asap.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-03-2013, 11:20 AM

Mexi Mullet day at the K to replace Frenchy Quarter?

CaliforniaChief · 08-03-2013, 04:50 PM

Nice win today. Not happy about Aaron Crow, but glad to salvage the win.

I didn't think we would face Wheeler, but looks like we will. Fortunately with Wright on the DL, there's not much offense with the Mets. Hopefully Santana can keep dealing.

I'm beginning to think we may need to explore another option at SS for the stretch run. If Erick Aybar clears waivers I'd take a good look at him. But he's also got a lot of money due his way, so it's not exactly a good investment.

What about Jimmy Rollins? He wouldn't waive his no-trade clause at the deadline, but there was a little flap about that after it all went down, and he's under contract for next year. If we continue to gain ground and the Phillies fall further, it might be worth kicking the tires even if the odds are about 1%.

Who else might be a good waiver trade candidate to shore up this offense?

PunkinDrublic · 08-03-2013, 07:01 PM

The Marlins just tied it up with Cleveland after being no being no hit for most of the game. 2-2 bottom of the 6th. I'm watching the game online!

CaliforniaChief · 08-03-2013, 07:18 PM

Seattle leading Baltimore, 6-2
Miami tied with Cleveland, 2-2
Yankees scoreless with Padres.
Tigers will never lose again. This is a Wild Card or bust run now.

C3HIEF3S · 08-03-2013, 07:32 PM

Cleveland back in the lead. 4-2

CaliforniaChief · 08-03-2013, 07:33 PM

If nothing else, I'd like to see both Baltimore and the Yankees go down.

**Dartgod** · 08-03-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Seattle leading Baltimore, 6-2
Miami tied with Cleveland, 2-2
Yankees scoreless with Padres.
Tigers will never lose again. This is a Wild Card or bust run now.

Can we please get a do-over on May? Pretty please?

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-03-2013, 08:45 PM

Orioles and Rangers lost tonight. Royals are back to 4.5 games behind in the wild card since Cleveland won.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-03-2013, 08:46 PM

Why is Miguel Tejada so awesome?

siberian khatru · 08-03-2013, 08:48 PM

Steven Davis ‏@Steven_Davis3 1h
Felipe Paulino with a solid, healthy 3 innings tonight. Good first game back, looked like his stuff had a lot of movement.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-03-2013, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Steven Davis ‏@Steven_Davis3 1h
Felipe Paulino with a solid, healthy 3 innings tonight. Good first game back, looked like his stuff had a lot of movement.

That's encouraging. If a healthy Paulino was back in this rotation instead of Davis, I don't know if the Royals will ever lose again.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1780308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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