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Old 12-18-2017, 10:18 AM  
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Twitter to begin purging the Alt Right Trump Supporters

Twitter’s new rules could result in a major purge of alt-right accounts

Twitter began enforcing new rules today to suspend users affiliated with hate groups “on and off the platform” — a policy that already has led to the disabling of some alt-right accounts.



Initially announced in November, Twitter also started penalizing users whose profiles include “hateful imagery and display names,” presumably including Nazi insignia, or those who use a “username, display name, or profile bio to engage in abusive behavior.”

For Twitter, the two new restrictions are attempts to combat rampant harassment and abuse on the site. Users affiliated with the alt-right or neo-Nazi movements in particular have seized on the company’s notoriously lax oversight to stoke racial tensions, peddle false news reports and attack their critics, including Democrats. Earlier this year, they organized a neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Va., with the aid of the platform.

To that end, the Dec. 18 enforcement deadline left some of Twitter’s right-leaning users this weekend fearing a full, messy “purge.” Some said they’d be shifting to Gab, an alt-right-friendly social media site, and encouraged their supporters to do the same.

And by Monday morning, some alt-right accounts had indeed gone offline. That includes the account for the white supremacist group American Renaissance as well as some users tied to the far-right group, Britain First, including a user that President Donald Trump once retweeted.



More at: https://www.recode.net/2017/12/17/16...right-accounts
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:57 PM   #106
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Look...you either support free speech or you do not. If the Nazi's didn't take out that full page ad...how am I going to show my kids how stupid they are? Private business can decide whether it wants to print the ad or not. Twitter can do the same, but don't tell me that they support free speech when they give time and access to views that are in opposition to Nazi views (as an example). It's an asymmetrical conversation and asymmetrical conversations are authoritative and autocratic because they inhibit an exchange of ideas.

Free speech means having to see, hear, and think about things you might not want to...I may not agree with what Ninerdoug has to say about anything, but I support his right to say it. If people think Ninerdoug is a fool, then I need to give Ninerdoug the opportunity to remove all doubt.

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"Free Speech" means "freedom from government interference with your speech."

It does not mean the right to use private property to express your views.

Do you have the right to get up on a soap box on the boardwalk at Venice Beach and give a political speech? Absolutely.

Do you have the right to place your soap box on the adjacent hotel or restaurant patio and give your speech? No way.

Private property vs. Government interference is the critical distinction.
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:58 PM   #107
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The fact that you think this has anything to do with Net Neutrality shows with perfect clarity that you don't have a ****ing clue what Net Neutrality means.
Kinda like how you think you're a moderate independent
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:00 PM   #108
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"Free Speech" means "freedom from government interference with your speech."

It does not mean the right to use private property to express your views.

Do you have the right to get up on a soap box on the boardwalk at Venice Beach and give a political speech? Absolutely.

Do you have the right to place your soap box on the adjacent hotel or restaurant patio and give your speech? No way.

Private property vs. Government interference is the critical distinction.
Tedious, I clearly alluded to that in my last post that you quoted when I typed these words
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"Private business can decide whether it wants to print the ad or not. Twitter can do the same"

We all understand. Do you have anything new to add to the discussion? I am giving you an ....opportunity
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:04 PM   #109
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Tedious, I clearly alluded to that in my last post that you quoted.
"Private business can decide whether it wants to print the ad or not. Twitter can do the same"

We all understand. Do you have anything new to add to the discussion?
New? I suppose not. My point is pretty simple: The entire concept of "free speech" has no application to the platform of Twitter.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:07 PM   #110
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Yes they are inhibiting free speech. It doesn't matter what who's message is. They are also in a legal position to engage in that discriminatory practice. But if it was a government owned tv station then that would be another matter.

And if I were to believe left wing political ads, all the ads for right wing political candidates are neo-nazi ads. So it's already happening according to the left.
Yes, they are inhibiting free speech. I disagree that all right wing candidates are portrayed as neo-nazis - the climate has changed, however, to where radical right-wing candidates have become more popular and the media has called a spade a spade. Roy Moore may not be a card carrying neo-nazi, but he's racist AF.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:08 PM   #111
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:10 PM   #112
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:11 PM   #113
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New? I suppose not. My point is pretty simple: The entire concept of "free speech" has no application to the platform of Twitter.
Let me help you.

There are two paths this discussion takes:

-The legal aspects of the first amendment (which we have covered)

-The principle that the first amendment conveys (the part you seem to be dismissing)

What I am saying is that no...twitter is not breaking the law...however...they are breaking the principle of the first amendment. Freedom of speech...freedom of expression. So I give their corporate culture and views a thumbs down. Today it's "hate-groups". Tomorrow it might be something else. All I know is that opposing view points are not okay on twitter. And I have a choice...to use their service or not. I am going to go with not.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:14 PM   #114
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Yes, the neo-nazis who want to drain America of what it ails from (in their mind) should be protected speech, amiright?!


**** off and die, dude.
Shut the **** .
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:19 PM   #115
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Let me help you.

There are two paths this discussion takes:

-The legal aspects of the first amendment (which we have covered)

-The principle that the first amendment conveys (the part you seem to be dismissing)

What I am saying is that no...twitter is not breaking the law...however...they are breaking the principle of the first amendment. Freedom of speech...freedom of expression. So I give their corporate culture and views a thumbs down. Today it's "hate-groups". Tomorrow it might be something else. All I know is that opposing view points are not okay on twitter. And I have a choice...to use their service or not. I am going to go with not.
You're right. It's a slippery slope and Twitter is taking a stance - your choice to choose to support it or not. If this was legislation, I wouldn't support it at all. As it is, I don't like "hate" ideology, so I'm fine with Twitter's decision.
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:23 PM   #117
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Old 12-18-2017, 01:25 PM   #118
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Free Speech isn't protected? You're a ****ing idiot.

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Old 12-18-2017, 01:27 PM   #119
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Let me help you.

There are two paths this discussion takes:

-The legal aspects of the first amendment (which we have covered)

-The principle that the first amendment conveys (the part you seem to be dismissing)

What I am saying is that no...twitter is not breaking the law...however...they are breaking the principle of the first amendment. Freedom of speech...freedom of expression. So I give their corporate culture and views a thumbs down. Today it's "hate-groups". Tomorrow it might be something else. All I know is that opposing view points are not okay on twitter. And I have a choice...to use their service or not. I am going to go with not.
I disagree that the subject matter of this thread is "the principal" that the First Amendment conveys." Maybe you think I'm quibbling. I don't think so.

I think if you asked the founders whether they believed that the "principal of free speech" was implicated by restrictions imposed by owners of private property, they would say no. It's the application of the word "free" to private property that is the source of disagreement. If you walk across your neighbor's lawn every day, and your neighbor objects, would you say that, although they have the right to keep you off their property, their restrictions nevertheless violate "principals of freedom"? I think not.

Yes, today it might be hate groups, tomorrow it might be something else.

You elect not to use it. Good for you. I have never used it. I really don't see any value in it.
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My beef is not with Twitter. It's with the idiots who selectively choose when they want to love the Constitution and when they want to piss on it....

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