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Old 12-12-2017, 09:31 AM  
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Net Neutrality: You should be concerned

Net Neutrality is the guiding principle of the internet. It preserves our right to browse freely and communicate openly over the internet.

Net Neutrality enables and protects free speech.

It forces ISPs to provide us with open networks and disallows any discrimination against an application or content which rides over that network. Just as your cellular network shouldn’t decide who you can or cannot call, ISPs shouldn’t interfere with what you can or cannot do on the internet.

If you haven't been following along, Net neutrality is the idea that all traffic on the Internet should be treated equally. That means your broadband provider, which controls your access to the Internet, can't block or slow down the services or applications you use over the Web. It also means your Internet service provider -- whether it's a cable company or telephone service -- can't create so-called fast lanes that force content companies like Netflix to pay an additional fee to deliver their content to customers faster.

These huge companies will profit by providing better speed to the sites that pay them more money. We have no right to know which sites paid for faster speed. All the money and power of the internet will be in the hands of a few powerful corporations.

Just think of the consequences for a second......start ups and small businesses will have to compete against the power of the big dogs that paid money for faster traffic. Service and options will slowly fade away due to an uneven competing environment.

The more sinister part could be the billionaires with an agenda will buy majority stakes in these ISPs and give faster speeds to sites aligned with their beliefs. This could happen on both sides of the political fence. And you will never know who paid or what group of sites are being favored. Talk about picking winners and losers.....GEEZZZZ

Can anyone tell me why even do this? How does this benefit the internet or us in any way?
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:13 AM   #46
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:13 AM   #47
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I stand with free market too, which is why I stand with net neutrality.

Open internet vs pay to play, which one is "free"

Its an extortion attempt. ISPs want to be able to charge more to both the consumer and the content provider so they can maximize profit in a business that they had full control of, and lost due to their lack of innovation.

Abolishing NN is a government bailout of the ISPs essentially, to help them reduce their lost profits.
It seems like a simple concept that some people don't get.

Why would you want to give AT&T, Verizon, Comcast MORE control over what you can & can't do on the internet?
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:14 AM   #48
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It seems like a simple concept that some people don't get.

Why would you want to give AT&T, Verizon, Comcast MORE control over what you can & can't do on the internet?
Exactly.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:16 AM   #49
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So the internet could turn into Fox vs NBC?

shiite!
From what I understand, this isn't a internet content provider issue at all.

If an ISP slows down an content providers service/speed that can be remedied by the FCC.

Does anyone think a content provider is gonna stand for that? Get real, they will sue the living bejesus out the ISP provider and if its provable they would win.

Free markets work best and Net Nu is not a free market solution. Sorry, its a government solution that will end up not working in the end just like all government solutions.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:21 AM   #50
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Net Neutrality is the guiding principle of the internet.
How could it be "the guiding principle of the internet" when Net Neutrality was passed in 2015. It's a NEW thing? You have dropped out time and sequence.

This belongs in DC where it has been the past few months in a mega thread.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:21 AM   #51
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This is a political topic, BRC. Your OP is misguided. A free internet is better for innovation, efficient use of resources, and competition than a government controlled net neutrality internet. Net neutrality hands even more control over the internet to the googles and facebooks of the world. That's why they're so keen on it.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:21 AM   #52
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From what I understand, this isn't a internet content provider issue at all.

If an ISP slows down an content providers service/speed that can be remedied by the FCC.

Does anyone think a content provider is gonna stand for that? Get real, they will sue the living bejesus out the ISP provider and if its provable they would win.

Free markets work best and Net Nu is not a free market solution. Sorry, its a government solution that will end up not working in the end just like all government solutions.
^this^

also, why do some folks have to subsidize the gaming and streaming habits of others...
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:22 AM   #53
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Exactly.
Again this doesn't address the real issue. Net Neutrality doesn't address CONTENT DISTRIBUTORS.


I get it the ISP's are the bad guys, yet companies like Facebook/Google/Twitter can sell your data for a profit and force feed you content you don't like.

Or better yet, remove Content within their own ToS because they "Don't Like It".

My principle is this, the free market will dictate where packages/data goes. Putting the Government in control to regulate ISP's is retarded. I want them as far away from the internet as possible.

You want Net Neutrality, fine I want the Government to force content distributors to provide all content within their stipulated ToS.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:24 AM   #54
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:26 AM   #55
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This is a political topic, BRC. Your OP is misguided. A free internet is better for innovation, efficient use of resources, and competition than a government controlled net neutrality internet. Net neutrality hands even more control over the internet to the googles and facebooks of the world. That's why they're so keen on it.
I think he knows but wanted to avoid DC for his own reasons.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:33 AM   #57
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ISPs are essentially mini-monopolies. There is no competition for a vast, vast majority of people, and there certainly isn't any innovation. Repealing NN will simply ensure we all pay more money for the same service we have today, and there will be no checks on the ISPs at all - they'll have carte blanche. Customers will have no choice but to suck it up and pay, because they have nowhere else to go.
Whatever they are this falls under the FTC—not the FCC.
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As long as it doesn't affect CP or E-Bay, I'm good either way.

But honestly, it's a topic I don't know a lot about and reading the 2 threads on here, I know even less. But, as a rule of thumb, I want the government out of as much stuff as possible.
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From what I understand, this isn't a internet content provider issue at all.

If an ISP slows down an content providers service/speed that can be remedied by the FCC.

Does anyone think a content provider is gonna stand for that? Get real, they will sue the living bejesus out the ISP provider and if its provable they would win.

Free markets work best and Net Nu is not a free market solution. Sorry, its a government solution that will end up not working in the end just like all government solutions.
No, they wouldn't win, as repealing NN would make this legal, as long as the ISP discloses what they're doing. The ISP will simply tell the content provider that they need to pony up for the fast lane, which will cause those costs to trickle down to the consumer.
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Again this doesn't address the real issue. Net Neutrality doesn't address CONTENT DISTRIBUTORS.


I get it the ISP's are the bad guys, yet companies like Facebook/Google/Twitter can sell your data for a profit and force feed you content you don't like.

Or better yet, remove Content within their own ToS because they "Don't Like It".

My principle is this, the free market will dictate where packages/data goes. Putting the Government in control to regulate ISP's is retarded. I want them as far away from the internet as possible.

You want Net Neutrality, fine I want the Government to force content distributors to provide all content within their stipulated ToS.
The content providers are just websites. You can choose to visit or not visit them right now.

with net neutrality, If CP wants to tell you to eat a dick, and you dont like it you can go to arrowhead pride.

If NN is repealed, CP can tell you to eat a dick, and pay to make their service the only one with decent speed so you are forced to come back and forced to be told to eat a dick a bunch more times.

Eat a dick by the way.
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