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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

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Old 07-21-2013, 10:23 AM   #3046
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Too bad about Freese. A lot of talent, but not consistent enough, can't stay on the field. It may be a PR nightmare to part ways with him.

Carpenter has played some 3rd. Not sure if he has the body type to stand up to the pounding everyday. That would be a good way to get more young talent into the lineup but would lack power at a position that normally calls for it.
Obviously it goes against the "normal" at 3B. But, what is a better line up?

Carpenter 3B
Wong 2B
Taveras CF
Craig RF
Molina C
Adams 1B
Holliday LF
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P

Or

Carpenter 2B
Jay OF
the rest of the current lineup
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:41 AM   #3047
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Obviously it goes against the "normal" at 3B. But, what is a better line up?

Carpenter 3B
Wong 2B
Taveras CF
Craig RF
Molina C
Adams 1B
Holliday LF
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P

Or

Carpenter 2B
Jay OF
the rest of the current lineup
The current lineup is pretty good, but inconsistent. Getting rid of Freese would help. But is Carpenter is going to be injured as much as Freese is and develops inconsistency that is not there now...

That's going to be a tough call. I would suppose it depends on how Wong is developing. I don't see Jay here after this year. I could see them dealing Wong and adding to that consistency by putting Tavaras in center.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:45 PM   #3048
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I'm not sure if thats your specific lineup, but if it is I don't think Wong fits in the 2 hole.

I think it would more likely be

Carpenter
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Holliday
Craig
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Freese out at 3rd trying to stretch a double, makes the first out of the inning at 3rd. Damn.


But hooray, he hit it hard going the other way .
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:59 PM   #3050
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Good win but Mujica scares me now.
Let's just hope he's a bit rusty from the break and will get over it.

The one that really scares me is Lynn.
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Let's just hope he's a bit rusty from the break and will get over it.

The one that really scares me is Lynn.
I've been worried about Lynn for a while now.
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I've been worried about Lynn for a while now.
His success is entirely dependent on his fastball command. When he doesn't have it, he doesn't have a plan B.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. Better pitchers than him have had long, productive careers working off their fastball. Lynn can do it as well, but he's going to have stretches like this where he loses the feel for his fastball and gets hit around.

Miller's the same way right now, but he's going to eventually have a plus curveball that will be able to bail him out when he's not feeling the fastball. Lynn's not likely to get there.

He is what he is; he's a good #3 starter that's never going to be an ace. He's a guy where you're going to have to deal with the fact that his aggregate stats at the end of his season will be very good, but it's going to be a rocky road getting there.
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