Target's response to my letter concerning the Salvation Army

BroWhippendiddle · 11-25-2004, 04:49 PM

They did not even mention my request to comment on their handling of military reserve members they failed to handle honorably.

Subject: The Salvation Army

Dear Target Guest,

Like many nationwide retailers, Target Corporation has a long-standing "no solicitation" policy that it consistently applies to all organizations
across all of its stores.

We receive an increasingnumber of solicitation inquiries from non-profit
organizations and other groups each year and determined that if we continue to allow the Salvation Army to solicit then it opens the door to any other groups that wish to solicit our guests. While some ofour guests may welcome the opportunity to support their favorite charity or cause, allowing these organizations to solicit means that Target would also have to permit solicitation by organizations whose cause or behavior may be unacceptable to our guests.

We notified the Salvation Army of our decision in January 2004, well in
advance of the holiday season, so the organization would have time to find alternative fundraising sources. Target also asked the Salvation Army to look at other ways that we could support their organization under our corporate giving guidelines. To this date they have not provided a proposal that fits those guidelines.

Local Salvation Army chapters can apply for grants through their local
Target stores. For decades, many non-profit organizations across the
country have successfully worked with Target in this manner. We are asking the Salvation Army to work with us in the same exact manner as the other groups and organizations who ask to solicit our guests.

This decision in no way diminishes Target Corporation's commitment to its communities. Target has one of the largest corporate philanthropy programs in America, donating more than $2 million per week and hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours each year to the communities in which it does business.

Sincerely,

Jennifer Hanson
Target Executive Offices

Demonpenz · 11-25-2004, 05:22 PM

They should just stop with the bells

headsnap · 11-25-2004, 05:47 PM

a big corporate black eye to Target...

it won't have any effect on this household as mrs.headsnap is addicted to that crap...

and a big F**K YOU to lawyers on this thanksgiving....

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 · 11-25-2004, 10:09 PM

I don't think so. I was harrassed by a bell ringer last year because I "only" gave $5.00, which was the only bill in my pocket.

Amazing...but I am glad Target is taking a stand against these people.

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 · 11-25-2004, 10:13 PM

And for the record..."these people" are outlandish bell ringers. There are some good people out there and I will be making another donation to the salvation army this year.

Mr. Laz · 11-25-2004, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BroWhippendiddle

While some of our guests may welcome the opportunity to support their favorite charity or cause, allowing these organizations to solicit means that Target would also have to permit solicitation by organizations whose cause or behavior may be unacceptable to our guests.

translation: if we let the salvation army solicit, we have to let the Klu Klux Klan and every other crackpot organization solicit or we'll get our ass sued.

not hard to understand irregardless of how much you dont like it.

Logical · 11-26-2004, 12:03 AM

I think that letter is a reasonable explanation of a reasonable policy. I wish more stores had a no solicitation policy. I am a giving person but I want it to be because I want to give, not because of some guilt trip these folks try to create.

Demonpenz · 11-26-2004, 01:11 AM

just a notice the charity for demon against drugs now accepts paypal

Jenson71 · 11-26-2004, 01:21 AM

I usually always give them my change on the way out. Last night at Fareway I didn't though, and then I got mad at myself when I got in my car. So, it seems like SA just has to get a grant, and then they can ring all they want. Seems reasonable.

Pitt Gorilla · 11-26-2004, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I think that letter is a reasonable explanation of a reasonable policy. I wish more stores had a no solicitation policy. I am a giving person but I want it to be because I want to give, not because of some guilt trip these folks try to create.

Exactly. Nice post.

OmahaChief · 11-26-2004, 07:46 AM

Well, I have to do this every year when someone brings up the piece of garbage that is the Salvation Army. I used to give this organization $1200 every Christmas , as I felt they did good work in the communtity. That all changed about 3 years ago when thye pissed me off. That Salvation Army refused a large donation from a man that had recently won the lottery. They told him they would not take money that was gotten from gambling. Well, I gamble, so the first reason that I quit supporting them is that. Secondly, they take money from far worse people on a daily basis. Drug Addicts, Child Molestors, rapists, wife beaters, thieves and the like drop money in the little red bucket on a daily basis yet they do not care because they simply do not want to ask. They also take money form little old ladies that "gamble", well play Bingo in the basement of churches but that is OK. They also accept corporate donations and indvidual donations from those that play the strock market, some call this investing but one could easily make the case it is just a safer form of gambling based on the info that is available to them.

Screw the Salvation Army and its legion of bellringers. I now give my donations to Toys for Tots or a local charity that I know where the money or items actually go.

KCWolfman · 11-26-2004, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazarus

translation: if we let the salvation army solicit, we have to let the Klu Klux Klan and every other crackpot organization solicit or we'll get our ass sued.

not hard to understand irregardless of how much you dont like it.

The KKK has not sued WalMart or my local grocery. They have the right to limit their charities.

Which also means they have the right to limit the SA along with all others. I find it petty, but they have that right.

KCWolfman · 11-26-2004, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I think that letter is a reasonable explanation of a reasonable policy. I wish more stores had a no solicitation policy. I am a giving person but I want it to be because I want to give, not because of some guilt trip these folks try to create.

Eh, I don't feel any guilt by passing them by anymore than the 17th firefighter I pass at an intersection with a boot in his hand on Memorial Day.

I do know they hire a ton of people around Christmas time to do the job and give them some pocket change before the holiday.

**Skip Towne** · 11-26-2004, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Eh, I don't feel any guilt by passing them by anymore than the 17th firefighter I pass at an intersection with a boot in his hand on Memorial Day.

I do know they hire a ton of people around Christmas time to do the job and give them some pocket change before the holiday.

40,000 posts? Looser.

KCWolfman · 11-26-2004, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

40,000 posts? Looser.

Damn, I didn't even notice. I will celebrate later, I have to get my bell and bucket and go make some bucks. Then I plan on falling at Target and suing their asses.

11-25-2004, 04:49 PM
BroWhippendiddle Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Target's response to my letter concerning the Salvation Army They did not even mention my request to comment on their handling of military reserve members they failed to handle honorably. Subject: The Salvation Army Dear Target Guest, Like many nationwide retailers, Target Corporation has a long-standing "no solicitation" policy that it consistently applies to all organizations across all of its stores. We receive an increasingnumber of solicitation inquiries from non-profit organizations and other groups each year and determined that if we continue to allow the Salvation Army to solicit then it opens the door to any other groups that wish to solicit our guests. While some ofour guests may welcome the opportunity to support their favorite charity or cause, allowing these organizations to solicit means that Target would also have to permit solicitation by organizations whose cause or behavior may be unacceptable to our guests. We notified the Salvation Army of our decision in January 2004, well in advance of the holiday season, so the organization would have time to find alternative fundraising sources. Target also asked the Salvation Army to look at other ways that we could support their organization under our corporate giving guidelines. To this date they have not provided a proposal that fits those guidelines. Local Salvation Army chapters can apply for grants through their local Target stores. For decades, many non-profit organizations across the country have successfully worked with Target in this manner. We are asking the Salvation Army to work with us in the same exact manner as the other groups and organizations who ask to solicit our guests. This decision in no way diminishes Target Corporation's commitment to its communities. Target has one of the largest corporate philanthropy programs in America, donating more than $2 million per week and hundreds of thousands of volunteer hours each year to the communities in which it does business. Sincerely, Jennifer Hanson Target Executive Offices
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11-25-2004, 05:22 PM	#2
Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3202136	They should just stop with the bells __________________
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11-25-2004, 05:47 PM	#3
headsnap "Think ZOOM!" Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Space Station #5 Casino cash: $1997236	a big corporate black eye to Target... it won't have any effect on this household as mrs.headsnap is addicted to that crap... and a big FK YOU to lawyers on this thanksgiving....
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11-25-2004, 10:09 PM	#4
Marty Mac Ver 2.0 SaveOurChiefs.com Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $10005625	I don't think so. I was harrassed by a bell ringer last year because I "only" gave $5.00, which was the only bill in my pocket. Amazing...but I am glad Target is taking a stand against these people. __________________ It's not the number of years in your life but the amount of life in your years!
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11-25-2004, 10:13 PM	#5
Marty Mac Ver 2.0 SaveOurChiefs.com Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $10005625	And for the record..."these people" are outlandish bell ringers. There are some good people out there and I will be making another donation to the salvation army this year. __________________ It's not the number of years in your life but the amount of life in your years!
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11-26-2004, 12:03 AM	#7
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I think that letter is a reasonable explanation of a reasonable policy. I wish more stores had a no solicitation policy. I am a giving person but I want it to be because I want to give, not because of some guilt trip these folks try to create.
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11-26-2004, 01:11 AM	#8
Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3202136	just a notice the charity for demon against drugs now accepts paypal __________________
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11-26-2004, 01:21 AM	#9
Jenson71 fides quaerens intellectum Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: United States Casino cash: $8330900	I usually always give them my change on the way out. Last night at Fareway I didn't though, and then I got mad at myself when I got in my car. So, it seems like SA just has to get a grant, and then they can ring all they want. Seems reasonable.
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11-26-2004, 07:46 AM	#11
OmahaChief Down with Nino Brown Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Omaha Casino cash: $9435000	Well, I have to do this every year when someone brings up the piece of garbage that is the Salvation Army. I used to give this organization $1200 every Christmas , as I felt they did good work in the communtity. That all changed about 3 years ago when thye pissed me off. That Salvation Army refused a large donation from a man that had recently won the lottery. They told him they would not take money that was gotten from gambling. Well, I gamble, so the first reason that I quit supporting them is that. Secondly, they take money from far worse people on a daily basis. Drug Addicts, Child Molestors, rapists, wife beaters, thieves and the like drop money in the little red bucket on a daily basis yet they do not care because they simply do not want to ask. They also take money form little old ladies that "gamble", well play Bingo in the basement of churches but that is OK. They also accept corporate donations and indvidual donations from those that play the strock market, some call this investing but one could easily make the case it is just a safer form of gambling based on the info that is available to them. Screw the Salvation Army and its legion of bellringers. I now give my donations to Toys for Tots or a local charity that I know where the money or items actually go.
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