Football Christian Ponder isn’t sure whether Percy Harvin will be back

malachi47000 · 01-08-2013, 04:19 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-will-be-back/

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said Monday that receiver Percy Harvin will remain with the team in 2013. Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder has somewhat less optimism.

“I’m not sure, I don’t know,” Ponder told Paul Allen of KFAN on Tuesday. “We’ll see. I mean, we’ll see how everything shakes out. I’m not sure what Rick Spielman’s gonna be doing. Obviously, it’d be nice to have [Harvin]. He’s a heck of a player.”

That’s a stunningly vague assessment of the status of the 2009 NFL offensive rookie of the year and one of the short-list candidates for league MVP based on his performances early in the 2013 season, especially since Harvin remains under contract for one more season. But there always has been a quiet undercurrent of discontent when it comes to Percy Harvin. Though he rarely acts out publicly, he apparently has done plenty of acting out privately — and it could be enough to prompt the Vikings to trade an arguably tired act out of town.

Indeed, Ponder opted, consciously or not, for the past tense when talking about Harvin.

“You know, he busts his butt all the time when he was here,” Ponder said of Harvin. “When he was out on the field, no one worked harder than him. Obviously, everyone saw how tough he was physically and mentally. And he had a lot of leadership qualities. He was a good teammate.”

He was a good teammate.

Yep. Percy’s gone.

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If the Vikings try for a trade, wonder what it would take to get him?

HolyHat · 01-08-2013, 04:21 PM

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mr. tegu · 01-08-2013, 04:21 PM

Care I do not.

mr. tegu · 01-08-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Care I do not.

He actually hasn't missed as many games as I was thinking. Would like to not see him returning kicks though.

HolyHat · 01-08-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

He actually hasn't missed as many games as I was thinking. Would like to not see him returning kicks though.

DJ's left nut · 01-08-2013, 04:22 PM

Hey now, there's a nice guy to look at.

Would you give up our 2nd for him? Kid's still extremely young, but he never seems capable of staying healthy.

I said I'd give up a 3rd for Maclin, who has injury issues and 1 year left on his contract. Harvin is a better version of Maclin with the same injury issues and contract status.

Yeah, I'd give up our 2nd for Percy Harvin.

Thig Lyfe · 01-08-2013, 04:23 PM

If he could stay healthy for more than 10 minutes at a time, I'd be all over that shit.

O.city · 01-08-2013, 04:24 PM

Would give up a 2 for him, more willing a 3rd.

**doomy3** · 01-08-2013, 04:25 PM

I mentioned this in another thread the other day. I would trade 2.1 in a millisecond for Harvin. Kid is incredibly talented.

Of course the majority of the replies were, "Why don't we just draft a WR in the second instead of trading for Harvin?"

As if there are a bunch of guys like him that you can just go draft when you want to.

RunKC · 01-08-2013, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I mentioned this in another thread the other day. I would trade 2.1 in a millisecond for Harvin. Kid is incredibly talented.

Of course the majority of the replies were, "Why don't we just draft a WR in the second instead of trading for Harvin?"

As if there are a bunch of guys like him that you can just go draft when you want to.

I guess it comes down to the question of Percy Harvin or Tavon Austin?

I'll take either one.

DJ's left nut · 01-08-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I guess it comes down to the question of Percy Harvin or Tavon Austin?

I'll take either one.

A) I don't know that we can count on Austin being there.
B) Austin simply isn't going to be as good as Harvin. Percy Harvin is an MVP caliber player when he's healthy.

The sole question is his health. And yeah, that's certainly a big one. That said, I don't see how you can't take that chance if you're looking to bring in a passing-oriented offense and help take some pressure off a quarterback.

**doomy3** · 01-08-2013, 04:42 PM

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Well shit, why not just draft Aaron Rodgers? Duh, that was easy.

Harvin made Ponder look decent. If you trade 2.1 for Harvin, draft Geno at 1.1, then re-sign Bowe and Albert - holy hell you have a good offense.

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Percy Harvin forced more missed tackles (22) than any other WR.

And he only had 62 catches.

He is completely hamstrung by playing with Christian Ponder. He would put up 1200 yards easy in a top passing offense.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

A) I don't know that we can count on Austin being there.
B) Austin simply isn't going to be as good as Harvin. Percy Harvin is an MVP caliber player when he's healthy.

The sole question is his health. And yeah, that's certainly a big one. That said, I don't see how you can't take that chance if you're looking to bring in a passing-oriented offense and help take some pressure off a quarterback.

These.

See, drafting a guy like Austin, you HOPE he is close to as good as Harvin. There is a 0% chance he is better. People severely overestimate prospects and draft picks. If you can trade a second rounder for a 24 year old Harvin, you stole him.

DJ's left nut · 01-08-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I mentioned this in another thread the other day. I would trade 2.1 in a millisecond for Harvin. Kid is incredibly talented.

Of course the majority of the replies were, "Why don't we just draft a WR in the second instead of trading for Harvin?"

As if there are a bunch of guys like him that you can just go draft when you want to.

Well shit, why not just draft Aaron Rodgers? Duh, that was easy.

Harvin made Ponder look decent. If you trade 2.1 for Harvin, draft Geno at 1.1, then re-sign Bowe and Albert - holy hell you have a good offense.

Chiefshrink · 01-08-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I mentioned this in another thread the other day. I would trade 2.1 in a millisecond for Harvin. Kid is incredibly talented.

Of course the majority of the replies were, "Why don't we just draft a WR in the second instead of trading for Harvin?"

As if there are a bunch of guys like him that you can just go draft when you want to.

A drama queen that gets hurt waaaaaaaaay to often ?? No thx !

**BossChief** · 01-08-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

You think Bailey is going to produce anywhere near Harvin levels? In an absolute best case scenario with everything hitting perfectly, he still likely won't.

Bailey and Geno have been teammates and best friends going back to before WVU. He could be a nice matchup guy when we spread the field. Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and Bailey...

That set would be hard to cover...find the one in man coverage and let it rip.

I wouldnt be pissed if we traded 2.1 for Harvin, but it carries risk.

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malachi47000 Rock Chalk Jayhawk, GO KU!!!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $9934937	Christian Ponder isn’t sure whether Percy Harvin will be back http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-will-be-back/ Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said Monday that receiver Percy Harvin will remain with the team in 2013. Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder has somewhat less optimism. “I’m not sure, I don’t know,” Ponder told Paul Allen of KFAN on Tuesday. “We’ll see. I mean, we’ll see how everything shakes out. I’m not sure what Rick Spielman’s gonna be doing. Obviously, it’d be nice to have [Harvin]. He’s a heck of a player.” That’s a stunningly vague assessment of the status of the 2009 NFL offensive rookie of the year and one of the short-list candidates for league MVP based on his performances early in the 2013 season, especially since Harvin remains under contract for one more season. But there always has been a quiet undercurrent of discontent when it comes to Percy Harvin. Though he rarely acts out publicly, he apparently has done plenty of acting out privately — and it could be enough to prompt the Vikings to trade an arguably tired act out of town. Indeed, Ponder opted, consciously or not, for the past tense when talking about Harvin. “You know, he busts his butt all the time when he was here,” Ponder said of Harvin. “When he was out on the field, no one worked harder than him. Obviously, everyone saw how tough he was physically and mentally. And he had a lot of leadership qualities. He was a good teammate.” He was a good teammate. Yep. Percy’s gone. **************************************************************** If the Vikings try for a trade, wonder what it would take to get him?
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doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $5403539	I mentioned this in another thread the other day. I would trade 2.1 in a millisecond for Harvin. Kid is incredibly talented. Of course the majority of the replies were, "Why don't we just draft a WR in the second instead of trading for Harvin?" As if there are a bunch of guys like him that you can just go draft when you want to.
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