Raiders were most fortunate/lucky team in 2016

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Per ESPN statisticians: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-bill-barnwell

2017 impact: The Raiders won 12 games but outscored their opponents by only 31 points, producing a Pythagorean expectation of 8.7 wins. That gap -- 3.3 wins -- is the fourth-largest since 1989. They're likely to decline.

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This makes a whole lot of sense if you watched the games. It seemed pretty suspect they were getting strange calls in their favor, especially in that game played in Mexico.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/hous...reaction-score

[cmdrzman]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Raiders put up a whopping 10 (at home) and 13 points on KC last year...KC even gifted them 3 turnovers in the last one.

Carr still hasn't beaten a play-off bound team that didn't have Osweiler at QB.

Raiders are fraudulent hype...

The Raiders have a better football team talent wise- no denying that

You better look out-

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Originally Posted by -King-

Maybe those games were rigged against them
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[Hammock Parties]

People who live in glass houses propped up by defensive and special teams scores shouldn't throw stones at playmaking QBs.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

The Raiders have a better football team talent wise- no denying that

You better look out-

Easy there. You have more talent on offense, sure. But not defense.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

You dopes are dumber than you post if you think Oaklands a 8 win team- That offense they have is frekin insane- Hell, they were potent and in the top 5 last year and just brought in Beastmode and Jared Cook from the Packers-

Not to mention they brought in Cordelle Patterson who is 2nd in the NFL record books on return yardage after Jim Brown-

They got the best Defensive player in the league and getting back a healthy MEJ- They drafted well on defense.... This is a whole new Raiders team with more firepower on offense- Any team is gonna have to score 30 points to beat that team- Cause their gonna be the 99' Rams on offense this year-

Don't let ONE winning season in the last decade fool you. The Raiders were really an 8-9 win team last year. They were literally given two wins (Saints / Texans) and needed LOTS of help with 3 more. When one considers that as the basis for their prediction, as is the case with this ESPN take, it's not too far fetched to think that they could decline this season.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

People who live in glass houses propped up by defensive and special teams scores shouldn't throw stones at playmaking QBs.

Right now Carr isn't a playmaker against us and hasn't been except one time when our our best DB had cancer.
They also aren't playing a last place schedule.

Carr's pocket presence is still below average bc he hasn't had a real coach to help him. It's clear in the tape

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Right now Carr isn't a playmaker against us and hasn't been except one time when our our best DB had cancer.
They also aren't playing a last place schedule.

Carr's pocket presence is still below average bc he hasn't had a real coach to help him. It's clear in the tape

Whatever. We better hope and pray that Mahomes gets to even 80% of Carr's current level.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Whatever. We better hope and pray that Mahomes gets to even 80% of Carr's current level.

Exhibit A:

https://mobile.twitter.com/guga31bb/...10535900213250

[Hammock Parties]

Anyone can cherry pick a dude's weird/odd/bad throws.

He had seven fourth quarter comebacks/game winning drives last year.

That's not luck. That's the stuff of legends.

If Carr continues on his current pace he will be a top 5 QB for the next decade.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Anyone can cherry pick a dude's weird/odd/bad throws.

He had seven fourth quarter comebacks/game winning drives last year.

That's not luck. That's the stuff of legends.

If Carr continues on his current pace he will be a top 5 QB for the next decade.

Depends on his OL, especially in our division. That's why we need to pay our fatties and draft them high from now on.

[FringeNC]

The Raiders are overrated. They have the best pass blocking offensive line in the league, and with that it's hard not to be pretty good, but their terrible pass D tries to negate that.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

The Raiders are overrated. They have the best pass blocking offensive line in the league.

who's overrated again?

[cmdrzman]

Raiders are 2-3 years ahead of the Chiefs- This is the Chiefs last try to manage even a little glimmer of hope to make it to the championship game and we all know that's just not gonna happen with Alex Smith- It's gonna be a mess in KC- Somewhere around week 13, when the Chiefs are probably sitting at 6-7 that the Mahome chants start raining down in that stadium- Smith knows this is his last year, the fans hate him and his team mates have lost any confidence in the dude- I could see Reid giving the green light to Mahomes once the Chiefs are officially eliminated from the playoffs to let him finish out the last couple games of the year- Mahomes will have a avg rookie season next year just like every other rookie QB goes through their rookie year- average at best- his 2nd year is when the Chiefs hope that they start to see some signs of life for the two 1st rd picks they gave up for him.

And if anybody here thinks Mahomes is gonna have a Dak Prescott rookie year you're insane- they don't have the OL, RB nor WR's the Cowboys have

So in 3 years Berry will have retired and Parker will be 33 and Marcus Peters will be holding out in hopes of playing for his childhood fav team the Raiders after watching them from the couch the last 2 years pushing for a SB

Raiders issues on defense have been addressed- they drafted two pro bowl potential players in Gareon Conley and Obi Melifonwu and have last years 1st rd pick Karl Joseph- Raiders secondary will be young and 2-3 year vet players- Raider are getting back Mario Edwards Jr, drafted Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA- Mack, Carr, Cooper etc all will be hitting their prime by the time Mahomes starts coming into his own-

Nobody cares about last year- Only losers do- What's important is whats in front of us- And right now, the Raiders are 2-3 years ahead of the Chiefs...

The Chiefs and Raiders are not winning the SB this year.. But the Raiders have the better chance starting in 2018

[Chief3188]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Raiders are 2-3 years ahead of the Chiefs- This is the Chiefs last try to manage even a little glimmer of hope to make it to the championship game and we all know that's just not gonna happen with Alex Smith- It's gonna be a mess in KC- Somewhere around week 13, when the Chiefs are probably sitting at 6-7 that the Mahome chants start raining down in that stadium- Smith knows this is his last year, the fans hate him and his team mates have lost any confidence in the dude- I could see Reid giving the green light to Mahomes once the Chiefs are officially eliminated from the playoffs to let him finish out the last couple games of the year- Mahomes will have a avg rookie season next year just like every other rookie QB goes through their rookie year- average at best- his 2nd year is when the Chiefs hope that they start to see some signs of life for the two 1st rd picks they gave up for him.

And if anybody here thinks Mahomes is gonna have a Dak Prescott rookie year you're insane- they don't have the OL, RB nor WR's the Cowboys have

So in 3 years Berry will have retired and Parker will be 33 and Marcus Peters will be holding out in hopes of playing for his childhood fav team the Raiders after watching them from the couch the last 2 years pushing for a SB

Raiders issues on defense have been addressed- they drafted two pro bowl potential players in Gareon Conley and Obi Melifonwu and have last years 1st rd pick Karl Joseph- Raiders secondary will be young and 2-3 year vet players- Raider are getting back Mario Edwards Jr, drafted Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA- Mack, Carr, Cooper etc all will be hitting their prime by the time Mahomes starts coming into his own-

Nobody cares about last year- Only losers do- What's important is whats in front of us- And right now, the Raiders are 2-3 years ahead of the Chiefs...

The Chiefs and Raiders are not winning the SB this year.. But the Raiders have the better chance starting in 2018

Three words for that little fantasy of yours. Jack Del Rio ... lol good luck

[NWTF]

Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Raiders are 2-3 years ahead of the Chiefs- This is the Chiefs last try to manage even a little glimmer of hope to make it to the championship game and we all know that's just not gonna happen with Alex Smith- It's gonna be a mess in KC- Somewhere around week 13, when the Chiefs are probably sitting at 6-7 that the Mahome chants start raining down in that stadium- Smith knows this is his last year, the fans hate him and his team mates have lost any confidence in the dude- I could see Reid giving the green light to Mahomes once the Chiefs are officially eliminated from the playoffs to let him finish out the last couple games of the year- Mahomes will have a avg rookie season next year just like every other rookie QB goes through their rookie year- average at best- his 2nd year is when the Chiefs hope that they start to see some signs of life for the two 1st rd picks they gave up for him.

And if anybody here thinks Mahomes is gonna have a Dak Prescott rookie year you're insane- they don't have the OL, RB nor WR's the Cowboys have

So in 3 years Berry will have retired and Parker will be 33 and Marcus Peters will be holding out in hopes of playing for his childhood fav team the Raiders after watching them from the couch the last 2 years pushing for a SB

Raiders issues on defense have been addressed- they drafted two pro bowl potential players in Gareon Conley and Obi Melifonwu and have last years 1st rd pick Karl Joseph- Raiders secondary will be young and 2-3 year vet players- Raider are getting back Mario Edwards Jr, drafted Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA- Mack, Carr, Cooper etc all will be hitting their prime by the time Mahomes starts coming into his own-

Nobody cares about last year- Only losers do- What's important is whats in front of us- And right now, the Raiders are 2-3 years ahead of the Chiefs...

The Chiefs and Raiders are not winning the SB this year.. But the Raiders have the better chance starting in 2018

Actually the Chiefs are ahead of the Raiders in the process. The Chiefs though have plateaued. They have actually done a good job of manufacturing points on D/ST but its still not enough to get over the hump. A reliable consistent running game would relieve some of the pressure on D/ST having to score points. The offense just isnt a championship offense. It just isnt and they know it.

The Raiders are not far behind the Chiefs but their D sucks and until they fix that they wont be advancing anywhere either.