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Old 05-01-2015, 06:36 PM  
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:53 PM   #136
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I don't like the pick, primarily because I liked John Miller as a C/G prospect in the 3rd better.
I respect that, I like Miller as a prospect. He's like trying to run through a tank.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:54 PM   #137
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If he was top 5 talent, you wouldn't have teams waiting almost 2 full rounds to take him. Unless you're implying that every team is stupid.

I can handle character issues. But a guy who misses several of the most important interviews of his life? I don't care about passing up on a guy who doesn't give a shit about playing football. That's always a big red flag for me.
Like Justin Houston?
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:54 PM   #138
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don't really mind this pick and here's why:

going to have to prep for letting Jeff Allen and Stephenson walk in a year, Morse brings versatility to play guard, center, whatever just in case.

Morse can bring competition to Kush who has pretty much minimal NFL starting experience at this point. May the best man win.

If he can't play center then I'm absolutely positive Morse can beat out Fulton at RG because Fulton is terrible and shouldn't be gifted a starting position by default like last year.

So Morse brings potential, versatility, and probably Day 1 starter ability due to the fact that the competition at some of these OL spots is well... garbage.
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Not a sexy pick by any means but it has the potential to fill a need.

Chiefs sucked on the inside of the OL last year. They have an unproven center and a few don't want to say it but possible scrubs in Fulton and Fanaika at guard. So yeah I'm not complaining were thin and unproven on the inside heck why not draft a guard/center?
Nobody ****ing cares about need. Drafting for need doesn't get you shit.

Drafting for need gets you a decade of Chiefs teams repeatedly drafting DTs and whiffing on all of them.
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don't really mind this pick and here's why:

going to have to prep for letting Jeff Allen and Stephenson walk in a year, Morse brings versatility to play guard, center, whatever just in case.

Morse can bring competition to Kush who has pretty much minimal NFL starting experience at this point. May the best man win.

If he can't play center then I'm absolutely positive Morse can beat out Fulton at RG because Fulton is terrible and shouldn't be gifted a starting position by default like last year.

So Morse brings potential, versatility, and probably Day 1 starter ability due to the fact that the competition at some of these OL spots is well... garbage.
Morse IS Jeff Allen. We're replacing Jeff Allen with Jeff Allen.

It's stupid.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:56 PM   #141
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Dude, before the marijuana incident he was at at least projected to be a top 10 pick. There is no excuse to not select him at this slot if you go strictly go BPA. This reeks of a Pioli or King Carl pick.

I can tell you this much, I wouldn't have drafted Gregory at any point at any draft pick even before he smoked weed. I hate players that can't defend the run and Gregory gets his shit pushed in repeatedly. This is the same reason I hated the Ford pick.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:57 PM   #142
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I'm not in agreement with much of the assumptions being made in this thread. Morse has looked to me like he's going to be an outstanding interior lineman that could adequately swing out to RT in a pinch if needed. I don't understand the hate for this pick. Morse was picked earlier than I had him, but I still wanted KC to pick him and I'm happy they did.
O touchdowns to a wide receiver in 2014.

Maclin was a perfect get, perfect... but without some kind of threat opposite him, teams will just double him up or slide coverage his way without a realistic threat opposite him.

The difference Mitch Worse can make as compared to a receiver doesn't compare IMO... there are a lot of players due to step up on the line... guys fighting for their next contract, guys trying to earn back their old spot, new veterans, young in house veterans, franchise picks on their final interview, Grubbs etc.

The difference some rookie do it all tackle can make isn't close to what a good rookie receiver could make, IMO.
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:58 PM   #143
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Dude, before the marijuana incident he was at at least projected to be a top 10 pick. There is no excuse to not select him at this slot if you go strictly go BPA. This reeks of a Pioli or King Carl pick.
There are reports that a number of teams dropped Gregory off their boards altogether because it wasn't just a pot issue with him.

As far as we know, the Chiefs are one of those teams.
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Morse IS Jeff Allen. We're replacing Jeff Allen with Jeff Allen.

It's stupid.
Yea I'd rather have a cheap shitty Jeff Allen then overpay on the FA market for an expensive 20 million shitty Jeff Allen.
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Morse IS Jeff Allen. We're replacing Jeff Allen with Jeff Allen.

It's stupid.
Except that Morse is much stronger, moves better, and blocks a whole **** of a lot better. But otherwise, pretty much the same guy.
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I can tell you this much, I wouldn't have drafted Gregory at any point at any draft pick even before he smoked weed. I hate players that can't defend the run and Gregory gets his shit pushed in repeatedly. This is the same reason I hated the Ford pick.


I hate bring him up but.. Derrick Thomas
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O touchdowns to a wide receiver in 2014.

Maclin was a perfect get, perfect... but without some kind of threat opposite him, teams will just double him up or slide coverage his way without a realistic threat opposite him.

The difference Mitch Worse can make as compared to a receiver doesn't compare IMO... there are a lot of players due to step up on the line... guys fighting for their next contract, guys trying to earn back their old spot, new veterans, young in house veterans, franchise picks on their final interview, Grubbs etc.

The difference some rookie do it all tackle can make isn't close to what a good rookie receiver could make, IMO.
You're preaching to the guy that wanted a WR in round 1.
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O touchdowns to a wide receiver in 2014.

Maclin was a perfect get, perfect... but without some kind of threat opposite him, teams will just double him up or slide coverage his way without a realistic threat opposite him.

The difference Mitch Worse can make as compared to a receiver doesn't compare IMO... there are a lot of players due to step up on the line... guys fighting for their next contract, guys trying to earn back their old spot, new veterans, young in house veterans, franchise picks on their final interview, Grubbs etc.

The difference some rookie do it all tackle can make isn't close to what a good rookie receiver could make, IMO.
There's a lot of guys, but they all garbage until any of them step up and prove otherwise.

And as I said earlier, this pick speaks to just how much, or how little, to be more correct, faith they have in Kush.
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Like Justin Houston?
Justin Houston wasn't even close to a top 5 pick before he dropped.

And his red flags don't even come close to Gregory's. Again, it's rumored that he missed AT LEAST 3 meetings with teams.

Terrible comparison.
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I hate bring him up but.. Derrick Thomas
I don't recall Thomas getting rocked off the line of scrimmage and driven back 5 yards before being dumped in the dirt repeatedly.
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