Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 50

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**Mav** · 05-07-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Do you know what is sad? That 49 fans feel the inexplicable need to visit a Chiefs message board and tell Chiefs fans how they should feel about acquiring 49er trash at a premium price.

'Niner/ Smith fans: "Alex isn't good enough to take the 49ers to the Super Bowl, but you Chiefs' fans should be happy to have him!"

actually, he was good enough to take the 49ers to the super bowl. Kyle williams made sure we didnt get there. Get your facts straight.

add to that, the 49ers forum board right now, is a kaepernick, SLOB FEST. Go take a look for yourself. From what I hear, as you know, I am banned, but i still talk to guys from there, this fruit loop Kaepernick, who you guys just LOVE, has started his own Kaepernick homers club. Im glad im not there lol.

**Mav** · 05-07-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Ahh. That makes sense now.

You gonna believe this shit too? Whatever floats your guys boats man.

splatbass · 05-07-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Alex Smith is just the fourth ****ing 9ers reject to get shipped to the Chiefs.

As I have been saying over and over what Bono, Grbac and any other prior 49ers QB did here years ago with different players and different coaches is not in any way relevant to what Alex Smith will do today. It is an illogical argument based on emotion, not reason.

Coogs · 05-07-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

Chiefs luck is they'll go 9-7, make the playoffs somehow, and get blown out.

After what we have been through the past 5 or 6 years, I am totally good with this scenario.

**Mav** · 05-07-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

As I have been saying over and over what Bono, Grbac and any other prior 49ers QB did here years ago with different players and different coaches is not in any way relevant to what Alex Smith will do today. It is an illogical argument based on emotion, not reason.

You have to understand that kind of thinking you are dealing with. Its happened before, so it will happen again. Its a mindset that until its broken, will always be. Its unfortunate, because from what I can tell, the building process of this Chiefs team as is today, is completely different that anything i noticed under vermiel, Haley, herm, or Romeo. The philosophy has been proven different. I suspect the results will be different as well.

**DaFace** · 05-07-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

After what we have been through the past 5 or 6 years, I am totally good with this scenario.

No joke. One of the many things I don't understand about the hivemind here these days is that people seem to only want 2-14 or 14-2. Anything in between is unacceptable. 9-7 for a decade is horrible. 9-7 as a stepping stone between 2-14 and a playoff run is...well...normal.

**Mav** · 05-07-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

After what we have been through the past 5 or 6 years, I am totally good with this scenario.

This is what puzzles me.

Break it down this way.

The Patriots, and Broncos, will probably have the first round byes. They have the weakest divisions.

So if the Chiefs do make the playoffs, lets just say they make it as the 6 seed.

They would play either the Afc North, or South winner.

Thats either the Ravens, or bengals, or the Texans/Colts.

I dont see today, either of those teams, blowing out the Chiefs.

Shrugs. People just want to cry, just to hear themselves cry.

Coogs · 05-07-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

No joke. One of the many things I don't understand about the hivemind here these days is that people seem to only want 2-14 or 14-2. Anything in between is unacceptable. 9-7 for a decade is horrible. 9-7 as a stepping stone between 2-14 and a playoff run is...well...normal.

Absolutely!

**Mav** · 05-07-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

No joke. One of the many things I don't understand about the hivemind here these days is that people seem to only want 2-14 or 14-2. Anything in between is unacceptable. 9-7 for a decade is horrible. 9-7 as a stepping stone between 2-14 and a playoff run is...well...normal.

Their thinking is that if you take Geno Smith, that you would prolly be 4-12 next season, but be 13-3 next year. And thats as an unlikely scenario, as the chiefs going 12-4 this year. That is a perfect scenario situation where everything goes right, and the most important part of that, GENO SMITH IS of the RG3, and Andrew Luck caliber.

Sorter · 05-07-2013, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

They would play the Ravens
I dont see today those teams, blowing out the Chiefs.

**SAUTO** · 05-07-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

You have to understand that kind of thinking you are dealing with. Its happened before, so it will happen again. Its a mindset that until its broken, will always be. Its unfortunate, because from what I can tell, the building process of this Chiefs team as is today, is completely different that anything i noticed under vermiel, Haley, herm, or Romeo. The philosophy has been proven different. I suspect the results will be different as well.

Anything YOU noticed?

This off season mirrors the year Pioli was hired.

But you don't know that.

Might as well quit lying
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Sorter · 05-07-2013, 07:08 PM

I mean, surely this team, led by yet another QB who needs constraints on the offense to be successful, has poor arm strength, struggles against 5+rushers, tends to avoid completing passes down the field, and has a high sack ratio can't get blown out by the Ravens in the playoffs again.

It isn't like Baltimore won a SB or anything. They're garbage!

Coogs · 05-07-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

This is what puzzles me.

Break it down this way.

The Patriots, and Broncos, will probably have the first round byes. They have the weakest divisions.

So if the Chiefs do make the playoffs, lets just say they make it as the 6 seed.

They would play either the Afc North, or South winner.

Thats either the Ravens, or bengals, or the Texans/Colts.

I dont see today, either of those teams, blowing out the Chiefs.

Shrugs. People just want to cry, just to hear themselves cry.

Whatever. Close playoff loss, blowout playoff loss, playoff win, blowout playoff win. I'm ****ing ecstatic on any of them. Hell, I'm happy this year if we are in playoff contention the whole season.

I'm ready for the extreme highs and lows. It's what makes sports what they are. We haven't had that around here for a long damn time. If we win a Super Bowl once more in my lifetime... that would be awesome. But what I really would prefer is damn competitive team year in and year out. I love the excitement of not being able to wait until the next game. Love the highs. With that comes the lows... but

It's all worth it.

Bad football just doesn't cut it!

EDIT: BTW, your scenario makes a lot of sense. I would be thrilled with the 6 seed and that potential first round matchup.

**Mav** · 05-07-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

I mean, surely this team, led by yet another QB who needs constraints on the offense to be successful, has poor arm strength, struggles against 5+rushers, tends to avoid completing passes down the field, and has a high sack ratio can't get blown out by the Ravens in the playoffs again.

It isn't like Baltimore won a SB or anything. They're garbage!

you are absolutely right. What was I thinking? A team that gave away Anquan BOldin for a 6th round pick, had ray lewis retire, paul kruger defect to the browns, Ed Reed to the texans, and ellerbe defect to the dolphins.

They replaced them with losing teams cast offs like Rolando Mcclain, and Michael huff. Who did they replace Boldin with?

As for the chiefs. Yes, over the past two years, alex smith, who has ranked in the top 5 against the BLITZ, have clay look it up for you, he will magically not be able to find it, and has zero problems finding Vernon Davis, the 49ers fastest weapon down field. So, i mean with all of your points, i am a complete reerun. By the way, i thought i was on ignore?

**SAUTO** · 05-07-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

I mean, surely this team, led by yet another QB who needs constraints on the offense to be successful, has poor arm strength, struggles against 5+rushers, tends to avoid completing passes down the field, and has a high sack ratio can't get blown out by the Ravens in the playoffs again.

It isn't like Baltimore won a SB or anything. They're garbage!

and this idiot is acting like we haven't seen this movie before.

THIS IS THE REMAKE.

sorry you missed the first.

Hell I wish I did
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05-06-2013, 07:21 AM
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