Chiefs The 1998 Eagles vs. The 2012 Chiefs - Page 3

HolyHat · 01-22-2013, 10:50 AM

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The 1998 Eagles vs. The 2012 Chiefs
By John Ames, FansTurn.com
Published on January 22, 2013 11:21 am in 360 News, Chiefs News

You might find yourself in the majority of Chiefs fans that are hoping and praying the Chiefs find their Quarterback (QB) of the future in this years draft. Since this new regime has taken over the watch, they have done everything possible to shoot down the idea of drafting a QB with the number 1pick in this year’s 2013 draft. Here is why I believe it’s all a smoke screen.

In 1998 the Philadelphia Eagles finished the season 3-13, one of the worst years in franchise history. They started 3 different QBs that year, each with 1 win. They scored a league low 161 total points, with only 7 TD passes from all 3 QBs. Following the 1998 season the Eagles ownership cleaned house, ending Head coach Ray Rhodes 4 year tenure.

The Eagles then went out and hired a quarterbacks coach from the Green Bay Packers by the name of Andy Reid, the local media and fan base didn’t like the hire very much at the time. Reid knew right away that he had a lot of work to do, and his main objective was to find a franchise QB.

On April 17th of 1999, the Philadelphia Eagles selected QB Donovan McNabb from Syracuse University with the overall #2 pick. The rest, as they say is history. Mcnabb went on to become an elite QB for the Eagles for the better part of a decade, leading his team to multiple division titles, conference championships, and eventually an appearance in Super Bowl XXXIX.

Now, lets fast forward to your 2012 Kansas City Chiefs…

The Chiefs finished out this year a lot like the Eagles in 1998. Playing multiple QBs, scoring just over 200 total points and had a terrible time moving the ball through the air. Finishing the season at an embarrassing 2-14. One of the worst years in Franchise history. Following the 2012 season, the Chiefs CEO: Clark Hunt cleaned house, relieving the general manager Scott *****, head coach Romeo Crennel, and nearly all of the coaching staff.

The Kansas City Chiefs immediately hired a proven Head Coach that was fired from the Philadelphia Eagles; Andy Reid. The local media and fan base called it a “home-run hire”. Reid knew right away that he had a lot of work to do, and his main objective was to find a franchise quarterback.

I feel like I’ve heard this story before,

If history serves us correctly, I believe Andy Reid; and John Dorsey WILL draft QB with the overall number 1 pick this April. The kid that I believe can and will be our QB of the future is Geno Smith, out of West Virginia, but that’s for another discussion. I don’t know about you, but I’m ready for some home playoff games.

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2013, 01:32 PM

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Agent V · 01-22-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Jeez, Dr. Z...

Were you consulting Gray's Sports Almanac?

No kidding. Nailing the first three picks which were ALL quarterbacks? I'd whiff it (unless it was super obvious back then who was going where; I don't remember). Most mocks are absolutely reeruned and ill-informed.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-22-2013, 03:10 PM

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It's crazy how much the game has changed since 1999.

I can most certainly recall on the old Star Forum and early here at CP that Tony Richardson was equally as important as a QB at the time.

HolyHat · 01-22-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's crazy how much the game has changed since 1999.

I can most certainly recall on the old Star Forum and early here at CP that Tony Richardson was equally as important as a QB at the time.

Thats no joke, we looked at T-Rich like he was gold. I was crushed when he left.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-22-2013, 03:19 PM

That team had some talent on it:

Dawkins, Hugh Douglas, Charlie Garner, Al Harris,Duce Staley, Tra Thomas, Troy Vincent, Jeremiah Trotter, and some other decent starters.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-22-2013, 03:21 PM

Do people really consider McNabb "elite"? I don't.

Any time McNabb was injured, Reid would play Jeff Garcia, A.J. Feeley, etc. and continue to win.

Granted, I haven't spent much time watching the Eagles in the past decade plus but anytime I did, I never came away with the feeling he was "Elite".

HolyHat · 01-22-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do people really consider McNabb "elite"? I don't.

Any time McNabb was injured, Reid would play Jeff Garcia, A.J. Feeley, etc. and continue to win.

Granted, I haven't spent much time watching the Eagles in the past decade plus but anytime I did, I never came away with the feeling he was "Elite".

The so called "experts" call him elite. I think he had some amazing talent, but he was a good example of great coaching.

EagleRob · 01-22-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by okoye35chiefs

yeah philly didn't like that pick and boo'd big time.. of course they booo everything....

Booooo!

Deberg_1990 · 01-22-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do people really consider McNabb "elite"? I don't.

Any time McNabb was injured, Reid would play Jeff Garcia, A.J. Feeley, etc. and continue to win.

Granted, I haven't spent much time watching the Eagles in the past decade plus but anytime I did, I never came away with the feeling he was "Elite".

I dont know if many do anymore? IMO hes a borderline Hall of Famer, but shouldnt get in.

He had a nice 6 or 7 year run where he was solid to very, very good.

EagleRob · 01-22-2013, 08:16 PM

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The so called "experts" call him elite. I think he had some amazing talent, but he was a good example of great coaching.

He was top ten but not elite. He didn't really have a great supporting receiving corps outside of T.O. But if he had a guy like him for the majority of his career he might have been. Tough to be elite with Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston, Na Brown to work with early on and through his prime.

Tombstone RJ · 01-22-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

I'm not certain but didn't the Philly fans want somebody other than a QB in that draft as well?

the philly fans wanted Ricky Williams...

TEX · 01-22-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleRob

He was top ten but not elite. He didn't really have a great supporting receiving corps outside of T.O. But if he had a guy like him for the majority of his career he might have been. Tough to be elite with Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston, Na Brown to work with early on and through his prime.

Point is, Reid identified the top quarterback of that class.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-22-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

That was considered at the time a historic QB draft because so many went 1st round.

McNabb..borderline HoFer..but probably not
Couch and Culpepper..flashed a little bit, but not for long.
Smith and McNown..epic busts.

Culpepper was far better than Couch. He had a really nice run there in Minnesota for a while.

Tombstone RJ · 01-22-2013, 08:30 PM

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Point is, Reid identified the top quarterback of that class. When he could have picked any1 of them, he picked McNabb and got the best 1.

so does this mean that Reid may pass on Geno for another QB who isn't as flashy?

**The Bad Guy** · 01-22-2013, 08:32 PM

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so does this mean that Reid may pass on Geno for another QB who isn't as flashy?

I think there is a lot of similarities in Geno's game compared to McNabb. Geno has the stronger arm though.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	That team had some talent on it: Dawkins, Hugh Douglas, Charlie Garner, Al Harris,Duce Staley, Tra Thomas, Troy Vincent, Jeremiah Trotter, and some other decent starters. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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