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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

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Old 01-16-2009, 10:56 AM   #1666
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Meltdown 101: Why gas prices rise while oil drops

By JOHN PORRETTO – 18 hours ago

HOUSTON (AP) — You may do a double-take as you pass your local gas station. Chances are, the price you pay at the pump has jumped markedly in the past couple of weeks, even as crude prices have fallen.

The average national price for a gallon of unleaded gasoline rose seven-tenths of a cent overnight to $1.799 — well below the $3.05 average of a year ago but up nearly 14 cents in the past month, according to the auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express, a company that tracks transportation data.

At the same time, the price of crude — which accounts for about 60 percent of gasoline's cost — has been on a steep decline. Oil futures tumbled below $34 a barrel Thursday after trading as high as $50 a barrel just 10 days ago.

So what gives? When oil made its extraordinary fall in recent months from a record high above $147 a barrel in July, gasoline followed suit. Why not now?

Here are some questions and answers about the connections between oil and gasoline prices.

Q: Why aren't gas prices falling at my local service station right now?

A: While oil and gasoline prices very often move in the same direction, there's usually a lag between crude's decline (or rise) and that of gasoline. Analysts say the ongoing uptick is gasoline prices is likely tied to oil's sharp rise at the end of last year, when fighting between Israel and Palestinian militants raised concerns about supply disruptions in the oil-rich Middle East.

Q: If that's the case, now that oil has retreated to below $40, shouldn't gasoline get cheaper?

A: It should — and it might — but other factors are at play.

For one, the companies that process crude into products such as gasoline are sharply cutting production, in part because demand has fallen off so much. Less production means less supply, which tends to push prices up.

The gasoline producers are trying to make some money in the wake of a dismal 2008. When crude prices were so high in the first half of last year, refining margins — the difference between what refiners pay for crude and what they get for products they make from oil — were dismal. In the latter half of the year, margins improved as oil prices receded, but refiners continued to struggle because people were simply driving less and buying less gasoline.

Companies that refine oil are publicly traded. If they don't turn a profit, they won't be around long.

"Refiners are not going to continue to sell gasoline at a discount to crude oil," said Ben Brockwell, director of data, pricing and information services for the Oil Price Information Service. "It simply hasn't paid to produce gasoline."

Q: But doesn't that mean they're simply inflating the price of gasoline?

A: That's the opinion of the nonprofit group Consumer Watchdog, which tracks the industry closely and has consistently called for greater regulation of refineries.

Consumer Watchdog says production cuts at refineries in California, for example, have far exceeded the state's drop in consumption.

"The refinery cutbacks are for purely financial reasons," said Judy Dugan, the organization's research director. "Now is the time for government to insert sharper oversight and regulatory controls of the refining industry."

Q: How does my local station set gas prices? Does it follow orders from corporate headquarters to keep prices as high as possible?

A: One thing many people don't realize is that major oil companies own fewer than 5 percent of gas stations. Exxon Mobil Corp., for example, said last June it was getting out of the retail gasoline business, following other major oil companies who've been selling the low-margin businesses to gasoline distributors.

Most stations are owned by small retailers — and many say they took a beating last year when crude prices spiked because they were unable to raise pump prices fast enough to keep pace.

That's exactly why some stations raised prices quickly after oil futures jumped late last year: Not because the more expensive oil had made its way through the production process, but because they saw an opportunity to make some money after struggling with paltry profits for months. So the usual lag between oil and gas prices may not have occurred this time around at some stations — they wanted to raise prices, and they didn't feel like waiting.

Gas station owners face a balancing act: They must try to maintain a price that allows them to afford the next shipment of gasoline, but they're also trying not to give the competition an edge.

Quinn Cassidy, an independent gasoline retailer in Slidell, La., said his profit margin on a gallon of gasoline has improved significantly since the summer, when he and others sometimes made pennies per gallon. Now, because of crude's descent, he says he can make 25 cents to 30 cents a gallon — and he makes no apologies for trying to keep the price as high as possible while remaining competitive.

"Why isn't it OK for me to make money?" Cassidy said.

Q: Are gas prices going to go up even more this summer?

A: Probably, but how much depends on whose forecast you use. Remember that summer is driving season, and gasoline prices always climb when thousands of people begin to take sun-inspired road trips.

Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service, predicts prices will move sideways over the next few weeks before they begin to climb in the spring, reaching $2 to $2.50 a gallon. He said he doubts prices can get much higher than that given how weak the economy is.

In another forecast, the U.S Energy Department has said gasoline prices will likely average $2.37 a gallon through 2009.

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Old 01-16-2009, 10:58 AM   #1667
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Gas station owners face a balancing act: They must try to maintain a price that allows them to afford the next shipment of gasoline, but they're also trying not to give the competition an edge.
This is the key part of explaining retail gasoline prices.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:39 AM   #1668
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Amazing. Oil closed @ 36.51 Friday. I didn't think it'd break the $40 mark
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Old 01-18-2009, 06:47 AM   #1669
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Amazing. Oil closed @ 36.51 Friday. I didn't think it'd break the $40 mark
Actually, it dropped to around 32 before Christmas.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:46 AM   #1670
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Old 01-18-2009, 01:49 PM   #1671
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Kinda ironic, since people are using less gas, the gas prices went down...so to compensate they refine less gas so that there is less quantities, and the price will go up. So the solution...when oil prices are low, we should all drive our asses off...or something...
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Actually, it dropped to around 32 before Christmas.
Wow, I didn't realize it was that low. I'm sure we'll never see that again.
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Despite sliding profits in 4th quarter, Exxon sets record for 2008
By Jad Mouawad Published: January 30, 2009


NEW YORK: Exxon Mobil, the largest publicly traded oil company in the world, said Friday that its profit fell 33 percent in the fourth quarter of 2008 as the price of oil declined.

But in a year where oil rose to a record price before having its steepest-ever collapse, Exxon still managed to set a record as the most-profitable U.S. corporation. It earned $45.2 billion in 2008, up from $40.6 billion in 2007.

After riding a tide of swelling earnings in recent years, the once highflying oil sector is beginning to scramble to adjust to a sharp downturn. Oil prices have dropped more than 70 percent since peaking at $147.27 a barrel in July. After averaging $100 a barrel in 2008, oil prices this year are set to decline for the first time since 2001.

Because of its close attention to cost reduction and efficiency, Exxon is weathering the drop in oil prices better than most of its rivals. This past week, both Royal Dutch Shell and ConocoPhillips reported large quarterly losses as asset values dropped because of the fall in oil prices. Chevron on Friday posted a small rise in profit.

In the fourth quarter, Exxon said it earned $7.8 billion, less than expected by analysts and in contrast to $11.66 billion a year earlier. That was Exxon's weakest quarterly performance since the second quarter of 2005, and the first time since 2001 that its performance in the period, typically its strongest quarter, has declined.



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"Weaker crude oil prices, higher operating expenses, lower chemical volumes and the impact of the Gulf Coast hurricanes were partly offset by higher downstream margins," it said. Exxon said that repairs and lower production because of Hurricanes Gustav and Ike lowered earnings by $570 million.

Exxon said that it gave back $40.1 billion to its shareholders in 2008, up 12 percent from 2007, as either dividends or share buybacks. Its spending on exploration, the heart of its business, rose 25 percent, to $26.1 billion, last year.

Exxon pumped about 2.47 million barrels a day of oil in the fourth quarter and produced 9.8 billion cubic feet, or 278 million cubic meters, of natural gas a day. Over all, oil and gas production decreased 3 percent in the fourth-quarter from a year earlier. In some countries, Exxon is entitled to fewer barrels of oil when prices rise.

Chevron said Friday that its net income rose 1 percent, to $4.9 billion, in the quarter. For the year, the company's earnings rose 28 percent, to $24 billion.

Faced with the sharpest downturn in 25 years, most oil companies are trimming investments and cutting costs. In recent months, projects have been canceled or deferred in Australia, Canada and Saudi Arabia.

In some cases, companies are waiting for costs to fall. In others, they are deferring expensive projects that have become unprofitable at today's lower oil prices. The collapse of the financial sector has made it much harder, and far more expensive, for companies to finance multibillion-dollar projects. In many cases, financing has simply dried up. Energy executives have warned in recent days that oil prices have fallen too fast, and too low, to pay for new and more expensive projects.

Tony Hayward, the chief executive of BP, said Thursday at the World Economic Forum, in Davos, Switzerland, that prices of $60 to $80 a barrel were "appropriate" to sustain investments, especially for producers from the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.

Oil was trading Friday afternoon at $41.75 a barrel in New York. Many experts have warned that there could be a sharp rise in prices when consumption eventually picks up. Fatih Birol, the chief economist at the International Energy Agency, estimates that around $100 billion in projects, mostly outside of OPEC, have been delayed or canceled over the past year because of weaker oil prices.

The Exxon chief executive, Rex Tillerson, has signaled that the company may actually increase its investments by 20 percent this year. It is sitting on nearly $40 billion in cash that could provide it with a strategic war chest to make acquisitions, according to analysts.
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Crude closed down 6.88% at $34.93 today. The next few months are going to be fun to watch.
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Crude closed down 6.88% at $34.93 today. The next few months are going to be fun to watch.
What are the continued expectations?

Trending up? Down? Who the blank knows?
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It seems like gas prices have been steadily going up for the last month or so though.
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Trending up? Down? Who the blank knows?
Historically, demand increases when spring rolls around and crude (and gasoline) rises in unison. I would be surprised if demand doesn't increase. However, I would guess that compared to previous years' increases, this year will be less.
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