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Old 11-19-2018, 10:17 AM  
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Progressive Dems Want to Replace Incumbent White Members with Non-Whites

They haven't even been seated yet and alredy Occasional=Castro and her crew are calling for incumbent white Dems to be primaried with non-whites. I applaud their honesty in the blatant unmasking of their racially motivated agenda.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Blesses New Push To Oust Incumbent Democrats In Primaries

In a significant escalation of her activism-driven approach to politics, Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has urged other progressives to mount primary challenges against some of the more conservative Democratic members of Congress.


Ocasio-Cortez delivered the appeal in a phone call on Saturday with some 700 progressive activists organized by Justice Democrats, the group of alumni of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ 2016 presidential bid.


“Long story short, I need you to run for office,” Ocasio-Cortez began her remarks. “We all need to run at all levels of government, but I really hope that many of you join me here in Congress.”


Justice Democrats recruited Ocasio-Cortez to run and played a key role in her upset of Rep. Joe Crowley, a House power-broker, in New York’s Democratic primary in June. Ocasio-Cortez then easily won the seat Crowley has held since 1999 in this month’s general election.


The group is calling its new campaign #OurTime. The initiative asks Justice Democrats’ army of activists to help identify Democratic House incumbents who are “demographically and ideologically out-of-touch with their districts,” and identify people who might make good primary challengers to them.


Joining Ocasio-Cortez in backing the #OurTime initiative is Rep.-elect Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.).


Justice Democrats’ inclusion of demographic criteria likely means that even some reliably progressive white Democrats who represent more diverse districts won’t be safe from such challenges in 2020. The group already showcased that approach with its support for Ayanna Pressley, a black Boston city council member who unseated progressive Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) in a primary in September.

Ocasio-Cortez and leaders of Justice Democrats say they are driven by a conviction that most current Democratic members of Congress are not up to the task of enacting the radical solutions to address the country’s ― and the planet’s ― most pressing problems. The most urgent of those crises, they said, include climate change, widening economic inequality and persistent racial injustice.


“There are some good people who want to push for stuff, but they don’t have the backup right now to do anything big,” said Saikat Chakrabarti, a founder of Justice Democrats who is headed to Washington to serve as Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff. “So we need new leaders, period. We’ve got to primary folks.”


“If we don’t have folks who are mission-focused, and laser-focused on solving these gigantic problems, we just aren’t going to get them solved in time,” he added.


It is highly unusual for a member of Congress to support a massive number of primary challenges targeting party colleagues.


But over the course of last week’s orientation on Capitol Hill for newly elected lawmakers, Ocasio-Cortez demonstrated she has little interest in adhering to traditional congressional norms of comity and deference.

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Old 11-21-2018, 05:31 AM   #61
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you nitwits.
You really don't have the cred to throw this out.

so,, age discrimination...
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:18 AM   #62
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I don't like it, but I'll defend it. EDIT: not defend it, but try to understand it...

This country, as of 2015, is 73% white. Do you have ANY idea how easy it is to ignore the other 27%? After decades and centuries of systematic racism that specifically set up whites to succeed instead of minorities and persons of color, the belief that a white person - even a democrat - while actually understand their needs and meet them is understandably faint.

The needs of the few are rarely met by the many. In predominantly Latino and black districts, why not have one of their own people stand up to lead, to fight for their equality and justice in a way they do not feel whites are either capable or willing to do?

I staunchly advocate against this type of race-based initiative, but I understand the impulse. The problem is that the great war in America right now is learning how to resist our basic tribalistic impulses in favor of what we know to be the more enlightened approach.

Both sides - BOTH SIDES - are guilty of this.
Do you even realize how racist you are? Poor minority can't get ahead unless your kind helps them by "evening" the playing field. Jesus man, get help.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:59 AM
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:11 AM   #63
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I'm not going to dig up the last time I talked on this, but here is explicit talk about the dystonia around the concept of racism.

This shit makes me sick to my stomach, oftime worse than straight up racism. Because it's racism posing as virtue.

https://www.theroot.com/americans-do...e-p-1830573275

The Federalist Article that occasioned in is linked mid-article.
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Old 11-21-2018, 01:24 PM   #64
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Disgusting
This is how the author chooses to describe himself.

"World-renowned wypipologist. Getter and doer of "it." Never reneged, never will. Last real negus alive."

Fact: anyone who uses the term 'wypipo' is a bigot.

Guys like this grandstand on semantics. "Oh, it's not racist when I do it, because power and privilege' then proceed to act as though minority status grants you carte blanche to be an awful piece of shit.

A black man can't 'forget to do the laundry'. That requires power and privilege. He can only neglect to clean his clothes. That is analogous to this clown's 'racism' argument. Meaningless semantic drivel.

This post modernist 'words construct reality' philosophy is pure trash. Words are a negotiation between people utilized to DESCRIBE reality. Changing the meaning of the word 'alive' to mean 'dead' won't make the concept of death more positive. It just gives the word 'alive' a negative connotation. It's amazing to me there are academics who write entire thesis papers on this horseshit.

Idiots like this want to gerrymander the argument around definitions because he has NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE TO SAY outside of 'I know white people, they're awful bigoted monsters and they're born that way." Nice insight black man.

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Old 11-21-2018, 01:35 PM   #65
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This is how the author chooses to describe himself.

"World-renowned wypipologist. Getter and doer of "it." Never reneged, never will. Last real negus alive."

Fact: anyone who uses the term 'wypipo' is a bigot.

Guys like this grandstand on semantics. "Oh, it's not racist when I do it, because power and privilege' then proceed to act as though minority status grants you carte blanche to be an awful piece of shit.

A black man can't 'forget to do the laundry'. That requires power and privilege. He can only neglect to clean his clothes. That is analogous to this clown's 'racism' argument. Meaningless semantic drivel.

This post modernist 'words construct reality' philosophy is pure trash. Words are a negotiation between people utilized to DESCRIBE reality. Changing the meaning of the word 'alive' to mean 'dead' won't make the concept of death more positive. It just gives the word 'alive' a negative connotation. It's amazing to me there are academics who write entire thesis papers on this horseshit.

Idiots like this want to gerrymander the argument around definitions because he has NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE TO SAY outside of 'I know white people, they're awful bigoted monsters and they're born that way." Nice insight black man.
Yeah that.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:07 PM   #66
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Do you even realize how racist you are? Poor minority can't get ahead unless your kind helps them by "evening" the playing field. Jesus man, get help.
That's the wrong perspective. It shouldn't be about giving one group extraordinary rights. It should be about eliminating barriers to fair rights. It's why affirmative action sends a not great message. Times are better for minorities who have broken away from bad neighborhoods. But there are still way too many institutional barriers for those stuck there. And I'd argue that small white towns are facing a similar oppression, so it's much less of a race issue anymore.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:13 PM   #67
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That's the wrong perspective. It shouldn't be about giving one group extraordinary rights. It should be about eliminating barriers to fair rights. It's why affirmative action sends a not great message. Times are better for minorities who have broken away from bad neighborhoods. But there are still way too many institutional barriers for those stuck there. And I'd argue that small white towns are facing a similar oppression, so it's much less of a race issue anymore.
We've spent nearly 50 years trying to use racism to fight racism. It's time to give colorblind a try.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:32 PM   #68
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We've spent nearly 50 years trying to use racism to fight racism. It's time to give colorblind a try.
I totally agree. Unfortunately but maybe fortunately, we've reached the point where all races are being marginalized. Sadly, white people think minorities are stealing their opportunities. Minorities think white people are hoarding opportunities. If both sides would just point the finger up instead of at each other, we might get somewhere. It's one of the reasons I think you're seeing a surprising uptick in black people beginning to sympathize with Trump.
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It's one of the reasons I think you're seeing a surprising uptick in black people beginning to sympathize with Trump.
You're trippin'

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Dems in general did a great job getting people out to vote in general. And there were plenty of strong local progressive candidates. The black caucus also voted no confidence in Tom Perez. Lots of them hate Trump but his approval rating among black people also puzzling doubled. To me, it's because much as they hate his rhetoric, they somewhat identify with what he's trying to do for middle America economically.
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Dems in general did a great job getting people out to vote in general. And there were plenty of strong local progressive candidates. The black caucus also voted no confidence in Tom Perez. Lots of them hate Trump but his approval rating among black people also puzzling doubled. To me, it's because much as they hate his rhetoric, they somewhat identify with what he's trying to do for middle America economically.
Black voters don't approve of Trump and we know this by the way they vote, which is the only metric that matters.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:46 PM   #72
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Do you even realize how racist you are? Poor minority can't get ahead unless your kind helps them by "evening" the playing field. Jesus man, get help.
Everyone responded to me, and I don't want to have several posts in a row. Let me start with this one.

I'm not sure how I'm being racist here. I was literally just trying to formulate a reasonable argument for why someone would do this. My conclusion was that it was tribalism at its most base. Those were not MY views and opinions, but rather me trying to understand someone else's.


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The country is 63% white not 73%
I was going off of the 2015 census. It's likely already WILDLY out of date.

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sapho - spends a sentence calling someone a racist ****, spends a paragraph telling us how people with different genitals and skin tones have fundmentally different interests.
I really wasn't trying to say they have fundamentally different interests. They have the same ones as anybody - education, health, financial success, opportunity for their children... But, they clearly don't feel that these interests are being looked after by their representatives. They might be absolutely WRONG in that regard, but they feel that way. But, people with different genitals fundamentally DO have different interests, cuz... body parts?

Anyway, again - I vehemently disagree with this whole thing, I just was trying to understand them without demonizing them. It's this thing I'm working on.
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