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Old 01-16-2015, 12:32 PM  
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The Earth is melting.....again

The heat is on; NOAA, NASA say 2014 warmest year on record

WASHINGTON (AP) — For the third time in a decade, the globe sizzled to the hottest year on record, federal scientists announced Friday.

Both the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA calculated that in 2014 the world had its hottest year in 135 years of record-keeping. Earlier, the Japanese weather agency and an independent group out of University of California Berkeley also measured 2014 as the hottest on record.

NOAA said 2014 averaged 58.24 degrees Fahrenheit, 1.24 degrees above the 20th-century average.

But NASA, which calculates temperatures slightly differently, put 2014's average temperature at 58.42 degrees Fahrenheit, which is 1.22 degrees above their average, which they calculate for 1951-1980.

Earth broke NOAA records set in 2010 and 2005. The last time the Earth set an annual NOAA cold record was in 1911.

NOAA also said last month was the hottest December on record. Six months last year set marks for heat. The last time Earth set a monthly cold record was in December 1916.

"The globe is warmer now than it has been in the last 100 years and more likely in at least 5,000 years," said climate scientist Jennifer Francis of Rutgers University, who wasn't part of either research team. "Any wisps of doubt that human activities are at fault are now gone with the wind."

Texas A&M University climate scientist Andrew Dessler and other experts said the latest statistics should end claims by non-scientists that warming has stopped.

The heat was driven by record warmth in the world's oceans that didn't just break old marks: It shattered them. Record warmth spread across far eastern Russia, the western part of the United States, interior South America, much of Europe, northern Africa and parts of Australia. One of the few cooler spots was in the central and eastern United States.

Nine of the 10 hottest years in NOAA global records have occurred since 2000. The odds of this happening at random are about 650 million to 1, according to University of South Carolina statistician John Grego. Two other statisticians confirmed his calculations.

Climate scientists say one of the most significant parts of 2014's record is that it happened during a year where there was no El Nino weather oscillation. During an El Nino, when a specific area of the central Pacific warms unusually and influences weather worldwide, global temperatures tend to spike. Previous records, especially in 1998, happened during El Nino years.

Every year in the 21st century has been in the top 20 warmest years on record, according to NOAA.

"We are witnessing, before our eyes, the effect of human-caused climate change," said Pennsylvania State University professor Michael Mann. "It is exceptionally unlikely that we would be seeing a record year, during a record warming decade, during a multi-decadal period of warmth that appears to be unrivaled over at least the past millennium if it were not for the rising of planet-warming gases produced by fossil fuel burning."

Some non-scientists who deny man-made global warming have pointed to satellite temperature records — which only go back to 1979 — which show a warming world, but no record this year and less of a recent increase than the longer-term ground thermometers. But Mann, Dessler, Francis and others say there have been quality and trustworthy issues with some satellite measurements and they only show what's happening far above the ground. They said ground measurements are also more important because it is where we live.

Francis said with the margin of error it doesn't matter as much if 2014 was the warmest or second, third or sixth — what matters is that there is a "clear, consistent and incontrovertible" warming of Earth.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/2015...64ea00652.html
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:56 PM   #91
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Evidence of climate change is already around us, whether you've noticed it or not.

The US military is very concerned about climate change:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...change-deniers

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamescon...lobal-warming/

Your insurance company is planning ahead for climate change:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/bu...pagewanted=all

Take the human element out of it completely, and you'll still see that evidence of climate change is evident in the behavior of other animals.

Like bird migration: http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...n-patterns.htm

Dozens of other natural observances: http://www.livescience.com/3864-glob...d-kingdom.html

In this thread, we already see that 2014 was one of the hottest years on record, breaking multiple records made over the previous few decades.

2014 also experienced the warmest oceans on record: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1114090009.htm

US Coastal flooding is on the rise: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0FX1FO20140728

Drought conditions are evident globally: http://rt.com/news/202311-nasa-droug...d-groundwater/

NASA, the science entity that we trust to land nuclear powered robots on other planets, is committed to educating about climate change: http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ (This is a great link with lots of references)



And they're not alone. Take a look at the list of global scientific communities that support anthropomorphic climate change: http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

See if you can click the NASA link directly above, and convince yourself that you know more about the topic than the collective intelligence of the scientific organizations you find there. If you still doubt that scientific consensus, then please attempt to compare that to scientific organizations that oppose climate change. Google that, and make a comparative list to what NASA provides above. Just compare those two, and see what you find.
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:00 AM   #92
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:04 AM   #93
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:03 AM   #94
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97% of climate scientists worldwide from different countries, cultures, and backgrounds accept the evidence that climate change is occurring but I'll take the opinion of Chiefsplanet and join in the science denying echo chamber with y'all.
They do? How do you come to this conclusion? It's easy to throw that number around. But what evidence do you have to back that claim? Did you read that number on the internet or is it because Obama said it?
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:11 AM   #95
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Evidence of climate change is already around us, whether you've noticed it or not.




Take the human element out of it completely, and you'll still see that evidence of climate change is evident in the behavior of other animals.

Like bird migration: http://www.natureworldnews.com/artic...n-patterns.htm

Dozens of other natural observances: http://www.livescience.com/3864-glob...d-kingdom.html

In this thread, we already see that 2014 was one of the hottest years on record, breaking multiple records made over the previous few decades.

2014 also experienced the warmest oceans on record: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1114090009.htm

US Coastal flooding is on the rise: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0FX1FO20140728

Drought conditions are evident globally: http://rt.com/news/202311-nasa-droug...d-groundwater/
So are you saying none of this happened before man?
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They do? How do you come to this conclusion? It's easy to throw that number around. But what evidence do you have to back that claim? Did you read that number on the internet or is it because Obama said it?
Because there are intergovernmental panels on climate change composed of thousands of scientists. These scientists are people who were learned good. They conduct these things called scientific studies, which require these things called data points and an ability to back up your claims with specific evidence.

I know it doesn't pass the same level of intellectual muster as an episode of Hannity.
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The Earth is melting.....again

I'm not quite sure why this so often even becomes a debate.

Our way of life is NOT sustainable on basically every aspect.

We ARE going to run out of space, we ARE going to run out of arable land, we ARE going to run out of fossil fuels, we ARE the driving force in over a thousand plant and animal species extinctions daily.

Shit needs to change.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:50 AM   #100
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Here is the problem I have with this subject. You and others believe that we have anything more than a raggedy assed guess as to the co2 content of the atmosphere was 400,000 years ago. Idont think we have accurate readings from 40 years ago and you are trying to use this graph with an overall swing of 220 ppm (thats million) to prove your point.


So you ask me to believe you based on wild assed projections made by the people pushing this agenda without
A proper control set
A minimal data set that consists of projections on any data older than 50 years.

I could go on but the basic thing is that in the fifties the equipment still consisted of glass tubes full of mercury and you rely on this data.

I hope I attached the right image
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I'm not quite sure why this so often even becomes a debate.

Our way of life is NOT sustainable on basically every aspect.

We ARE going to run out of space, we ARE going to run out of arable land, we ARE going to run out of fossil fuels, we ARE the driving force in over a thousand plant and animal species extinctions daily.

Shit needs to change.
What are you willing to give up in order to facilitate that change?
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Old 01-17-2015, 12:30 PM   #104
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What are you willing to give up in order to facilitate that change?
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Not my electricity
Not my plastic made toys
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Here is the problem I have with this subject. You and others believe that we have anything more than a raggedy assed guess as to the co2 content of the atmosphere was 400,000 years ago. Idont think we have accurate readings from 40 years ago and you are trying to use this graph with an overall swing of 220 ppm (thats million) to prove your point.


So you ask me to believe you based on wild assed projections made by the people pushing this agenda without
A proper control set
A minimal data set that consists of projections on any data older than 50 years.

I could go on but the basic thing is that in the fifties the equipment still consisted of glass tubes full of mercury and you rely on this data.

I hope I attached the right image

These aren't wild-assed suggestions. Those numbers are pulled from geological samples, most notably ice cores.

Moreover, I don't think someone should be criticizing scientific findings when they don't understand the concept of proportional rates vs. a total amount.

The difference between being pretty drunk and dead is .2%, one out of every five hundred. Of course, that difference is also double.
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