Gambling Thread - Week of September 26-27

[KCWolfman]

MOST IMPORTANT - If you are not on the Leaderboard (click here) then I am not placing your bets. Check the leaderboard before you bet.

Everyone starts with 10,000 credits. Read the Rules (click here)carefully. If I catch any errors in your bets before the game starts, I will try to notify you, but I am not ultimately responsibly.

After you are sure of the rules come back here and place your bets on this thread. The odds are on Week Three Odds - Click Here

Important - The Monday Night Game does not yet have odds released. I will check again tomorrow

I will take your bets from this page and place them on the Week Three Odds Page

I STRONGLY advice that you refresh the pages before referring to them, especially if you have cookies activated.

Also note this very important fact: You are responsible for insuring your bets are placed accurately. Check it to insure your bets are correct. Remember - only you can prevent bad bet placement

IMPORTANT RULE - DO NOT EDIT YOUR BETS AFTER YOU HAVE PLACED THEM. INSTEAD START A NEW REPLY WITH THE WORDS "CHANGE BET(S)" AT THE BEGINNING OF THE POST

This will help me in keeping up with bet placement and changes without becoming an accountant and referee.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Hoover

So what is your ending total after this week Coogs?

hoover is coming for you!

I will not fade like last year....Well Maybe

I won $5000 this weekend, so I should be just over $20,000.

But I have some issues with the game after this weekend Hoover. There seems to be some cheating going on, as a $5000 bet on Tampa Bay disappeared sometime Sunday night after the game started, or Monday morning sometime. I can not prove it was there, but I saw it on at least three occasions Sunday night. I stopped by to see how everyone was doing, and debated betting on the Oakland/Tampa game. So I was in this thread at least three times late Sunday afternoon, and saw the $5000 bet.

Even though this is just a game, I am not sure I want to play if it is not on the up and up. It is just the principal of the thing, if you know what I mean.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I won $5000 this weekend, so I should be just over $20,000.

But I have some issues with the game after this weekend Hoover. There seems to be some cheating going on, as a $5000 bet on Tampa Bay disappeared sometime Sunday night after the game started, or Monday morning sometime. I can not prove it was there, but I saw it on at least three occasions Sunday night. I stopped by to see how everyone was doing, and debated betting on the Oakland/Tampa game. So I was in this thread at least three times late Sunday afternoon, and saw the $5000 bet.

Even though this is just a game, I am not sure I want to play if it is not on the up and up. It is just the principal of the thing, if you know what I mean.

I'm with ya 100%

I know its just a game, so I get even more pissed when someone pulls that crap. I wish I could back you up but I can't, I placed my bets without looking at other peoples bets.

I think I should be a little over 20 K as well

[KCWolfman]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm still curious as to what happened to the $5000 bet someone posted on the Buc's. I know it was there, because I was going to bet $5000 grand on the Raiders, but decided against it because of the person who had bet on the Buc's. I didn't want a $10,000 "swing" in the standings on one game.

I also know the bet was there "after" the game started. I logged on to the thread 15 minutes or so into the game, and it was still there.

Waiting for a reply....

Coogs, I will check posts. The only people who can delete posts are me and the other moderators. Since I have the only capability to move the bets to the website, I am assuming you mean me (especially regarding the totals). I updated the board last night, but it was at the end of the game as I was at the Delaney function and did not have access to a PC until after 10:00pm or thereabouts.

I placed my bets but did not delete any posts or remove any bets from the board. For future reference, I can take a date stamped image (jpeg) from the board before kickoffs showing bets. You can also quote my bets to stamp them if you would like - any altering of your posts would have my name attached.

For this issue I can tell you I did not delete bets after the fact. I don't know who did, if it occurred.

[KCWolfman]

Coogs, there is no change in the post count for this thread that I can see.

Again, I recommend you quote the bets in the future of all moderators. That will make a second statement for the same bet that cannot be altered.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Coogs, there is no change in the post count for this thread that I can see.

Again, I recommend you quote the bets in the future of all moderators. That will make a second statement for the same bet that cannot be altered.

KCWolfman,

I know who made the bet. I know it is gone. I know it left sometime between the middle of the first quarter and Monday morning. If that person decides to fess up, I would feel better about playing in this game. If not, I may still play.... but then again maybe not. I'll just have to see.

But I will not divulge who it was. They know who it was, and they know that I know. I'll probably loose a bit of respect for that person, but knowing that they know that I know is enough for me.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Coogs

KCWolfman,

I know who made the bet. I know it is gone. I know it left sometime between the middle of the first quarter and Monday morning. If that person decides to fess up, I would feel better about playing in this game. If not, I may still play.... but then again maybe not. I'll just have to see.

But I will not divulge who it was. They know who it was, and they know that I know. I'll probably loose a bit of respect for that person, but knowing that they know that I know is enough for me.

I'm reluctant to say anything, but maybe this will help what I *think* might be a bit of a communication gap...

Coogs -- just for perfect clarity -- are you saying that a post was DELETED, or are you saying that a post was EDITED??

[Otter]

Why does shit always have to a freaking soap opera around here?

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

I'm reluctant to say anything, but maybe this will help what I *think* might be a bit of a communication gap...

Coogs -- just for perfect clarity -- are you saying that a post was DELETED, or are you saying that a post was EDITED??

DELETED

There was a post from one of the contestants made somewhere around 6:00 PM Sunday night, give or take a bit of time. All the post said was...

Bucc's +3 $5000


.... or something pretty close to that. I was on the thread three times between 6:00 PM and 8:00 PM, give or take a little bit. I saw the post every one of those times.


Monday morning when I checked the thread, the post was missing.


Can I prove it was there? No. But I know it was there. Copying that persons bets for future reference will not do any good, as it will probably not happen again.

Point is, it happened once. It is like one of the players getting a $5000 mulligan. And even though this is just a game, it makes the game not fair. I'm sure everyone else who is playing would like to have an extra $5000 added to their total too.

Coogs - really dissappointed in this turn of events.

[patteeu]

If I can't get my $5,000 bet on the Chiefs/Carolina moneyline back, then I'm done with this game.

[Hoover]

Coogs,

If your so pissed just call the dude out.

I don't like people cheating, and its stupid to do so in a game with only bragging rights.

So call the dude out or drop it.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Coogs,

If your so pissed just call the dude out.

I don't like people cheating, and its stupid to do so in a game with only bragging rights.

So call the dude out or drop it.

I'm going to drop it as calling the person out would do no good. I'm not pissed. In fact, I wasn't going to post on this this morning, but Amnorix asked the question. I was just tying to explain the situation.

[patteeu]

I'm serious. I'm done with this game if I don't get a refund.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm serious. I'm done with this game if I don't get a refund.

No worries there. Stick a fork in ya, you're definitely done...

[morphius]

The thing that is odd, is that if someone would have edited thier post we would see a line saying that the post was edited, same thing if it was deleted.

Very odd.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Coogs

KCWolfman,

I know who made the bet. I know it is gone. I know it left sometime between the middle of the first quarter and Monday morning. If that person decides to fess up, I would feel better about playing in this game. If not, I may still play.... but then again maybe not. I'll just have to see.

But I will not divulge who it was. They know who it was, and they know that I know. I'll probably loose a bit of respect for that person, but knowing that they know that I know is enough for me.

I know lil momma thought she saw a bet as well. All the years we have done this and we have never had this type of accusation before so I need to figure out how to handle two things. How to deal with this and how to make sure it never happens again. I suppose Russ and myself could step aside so nobody thinks the system is manipulated, I would hate to do that but we can if we must. I could also copy the gambling thread just before games start on sunday morning, Sunday evening and Monday night and have a 3rd person do that as well, maybe Coogs. I am open to suggestions. This has been a blast in the past I would hate to have a bunch of drama in the future. I am open to any suggestions.