Chiefs If its true that Dorsey will wait for Gholston, thats good news

KCrockaholic · 07-23-2008, 10:57 PM

N.Y. Jets, Gholston are close to contract
by Dave Hutchinson/The Star-Ledger
Wednesday July 23, 2008, 7:38 PM

The Jets and representatives for their first-round pick, pass-rushing linebacker Vernon Gholston, are close to a deal that could put Gholston on the practice field as early as Thursday or Friday.

Gholston, who is in New York, is said to be eager to report, especially after he missed nearly all of the offseason program because he had to wait until his class at Ohio State finished out the semester. He was the No. 6 pick in April's draft.

The stumbling block in contract talks is that Gholston's camp wants a five-year deal and the Jets want six, according to someone with knowledge of the negotiations. That person spoke on condition of anonymity because he's not authorized to speak publicly on behalf of the Jets or Gholston.

If Gholston doesn't report Thursday, it'll be the second consecutive year the Jets opened training camp without their top pick. Last year, cornerback Darrelle Revis staged a 20-day holdout, also over the length of the contract. The Revis camp wanted four and the Jets six. Revis ended up with a six-year deal but has the option to buy back the final two years and get out of the contract.

Thus far, four of the top six first-round picks have signed: Miami's Jake Long at No. 1 (five years, $57 million), St. Louis' Chris Long at No. 2 (six years, $56.5 million), Atlanta's Matt Ryan at No. 3 (six years, $72 million) and Oakland's Darren McFadden at No. 4 (six years, $60 million).

Kansas City's Glenn Dorsey at No. 5 and New Orleans' Sedrick Ellis at No. 7 have yet to sign.

As the retooled Jets begin training camp Thursday at Hofstra with a double session, they're almost giddy about the fact that coach Eric Mangini has promised to lighten up, having practice last no longer than two hours. He has also reduced the number of two-a-day sessions.

"No doubt," said wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery during a conference call. "Anytime you can do something to help the players save their legs, we definitely welcome that. ... It's just refreshing to know that the coaches are doing a lot to make sure your legs are in the shape they need to be in."

Veterans griped the past two seasons about how Mangini ran training camp practices, privately saying they were beat up before the season started.

"There have been some questions (about practices) here and there," said Cotchery, "but I think coach made his own decision."

Asked if he expected camp to be a breeze, Cotchery quickly said, "It doesn't matter how much you tweak training camp, it's going to be tough."

One huge addition, literally and figuratively, is 360-pound nose tackle Kris Jenkins, who'll anchor the 3-4 defense.

"Everybody knows what (Jenkins) is capable of," said inside linebacker David Harris. "He's a (three-time) Pro Bowler. He's a big guy. He takes up space. He'll get double teams. I think he's going to fit into the system very well and everybody is going to benefit from it."

RT Clint Oldenburg was taken off the active/non-football injury list and will practice Thursday. ... Mangini said he doesn't expect TE Chris Baker to be on the physically unable to perform list for an extended period.

thanks to theganggreen.com

KCrockaholic · 07-23-2008, 11:46 PM

umm...bump

Priest31kc · 07-24-2008, 12:33 AM

great news, atleast get albert in though, dorsey can miss a couple days and be fine. I wanna see him in the first preseason game though!!

Vegas_Dave · 07-24-2008, 01:07 AM

Sad that the #3 & #4 picks made more money then the #1 & #2

Mecca · 07-24-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave

Sad that the #3 & #4 picks made more money then the #1 & #2

Remember that's giving overall contract value and not the guaranteed money.

InChiefsHeaven · 07-24-2008, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Remember that's giving overall contract value and not the guaranteed money.

Indeed. The devil is in the details, which I'm sure Dorsey's agent and Carl are able to see more of than us.

KCrockaholic · 07-24-2008, 04:47 PM

Awesome news! Gholston is signed! now we only have 2 more guys to go, before Dorsey's A-hole of an agent will work with KC.

"Originally Posted by The Jets Stream
Vernon on board

The Vernon Gholston contract is done, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations. The only thing standing in the way of a Gholston press conference/appearance on the practice field is league approval.

It should come in close to $9 million a year, a staggering amount for a rookie. He’d better be good, real good."

PastorMikH · 07-24-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Awesome news! Gholston is signed! now we only have 2 more guys to go, before Dorsey's A-hole of an agent will work with KC.

It seems that a lot of player's agents are jerks when it comes to KC. I don't hear nearly as much about them being jerks when it's other teams. I'm thinking that agents around the league sit there on draft day or the first day of Free Agency praying that Carl and Kansas City won't be an option for them.

If I were to guess the scenario, I would bet that Carl shot such a low ball offer that Dorsey's agent decided to wait and see what the slots below Dorsey bring to show how ridiculous Carl's offer was.

9 mil a year for Ghoulston will make Dorsey REALLY expensive.

blueballs · 07-24-2008, 05:53 PM

Carl's busy doing a interview with the crack staff from WPI

Valiant · 07-24-2008, 07:20 PM

See this is what I hate.. The agent probably knows that they are going to overpay Gholston and therefore force to overpay Dorsey..

There should be rules against collusion for agents also..

07-23-2008, 10:57 PM	Topic Starter
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4792900	If its true that Dorsey will wait for Gholston, thats good news N.Y. Jets, Gholston are close to contract by Dave Hutchinson/The Star-Ledger Wednesday July 23, 2008, 7:38 PM The Jets and representatives for their first-round pick, pass-rushing linebacker Vernon Gholston, are close to a deal that could put Gholston on the practice field as early as Thursday or Friday. Gholston, who is in New York, is said to be eager to report, especially after he missed nearly all of the offseason program because he had to wait until his class at Ohio State finished out the semester. He was the No. 6 pick in April's draft. The stumbling block in contract talks is that Gholston's camp wants a five-year deal and the Jets want six, according to someone with knowledge of the negotiations. That person spoke on condition of anonymity because he's not authorized to speak publicly on behalf of the Jets or Gholston. If Gholston doesn't report Thursday, it'll be the second consecutive year the Jets opened training camp without their top pick. Last year, cornerback Darrelle Revis staged a 20-day holdout, also over the length of the contract. The Revis camp wanted four and the Jets six. Revis ended up with a six-year deal but has the option to buy back the final two years and get out of the contract. Thus far, four of the top six first-round picks have signed: Miami's Jake Long at No. 1 (five years, $57 million), St. Louis' Chris Long at No. 2 (six years, $56.5 million), Atlanta's Matt Ryan at No. 3 (six years, $72 million) and Oakland's Darren McFadden at No. 4 (six years, $60 million). Kansas City's Glenn Dorsey at No. 5 and New Orleans' Sedrick Ellis at No. 7 have yet to sign. As the retooled Jets begin training camp Thursday at Hofstra with a double session, they're almost giddy about the fact that coach Eric Mangini has promised to lighten up, having practice last no longer than two hours. He has also reduced the number of two-a-day sessions. "No doubt," said wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery during a conference call. "Anytime you can do something to help the players save their legs, we definitely welcome that. ... It's just refreshing to know that the coaches are doing a lot to make sure your legs are in the shape they need to be in." Veterans griped the past two seasons about how Mangini ran training camp practices, privately saying they were beat up before the season started. "There have been some questions (about practices) here and there," said Cotchery, "but I think coach made his own decision." Asked if he expected camp to be a breeze, Cotchery quickly said, "It doesn't matter how much you tweak training camp, it's going to be tough." One huge addition, literally and figuratively, is 360-pound nose tackle Kris Jenkins, who'll anchor the 3-4 defense. "Everybody knows what (Jenkins) is capable of," said inside linebacker David Harris. "He's a (three-time) Pro Bowler. He's a big guy. He takes up space. He'll get double teams. I think he's going to fit into the system very well and everybody is going to benefit from it." RT Clint Oldenburg was taken off the active/non-football injury list and will practice Thursday. ... Mangini said he doesn't expect TE Chris Baker to be on the physically unable to perform list for an extended period. thanks to theganggreen.com
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4792900	Awesome news! Gholston is signed! now we only have 2 more guys to go, before Dorsey's A-hole of an agent will work with KC. "Originally Posted by The Jets Stream Vernon on board The Vernon Gholston contract is done, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations. The only thing standing in the way of a Gholston press conference/appearance on the practice field is league approval. It should come in close to $9 million a year, a staggering amount for a rookie. He’d better be good, real good."
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Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6442380	See this is what I hate.. The agent probably knows that they are going to overpay Gholston and therefore force to overpay Dorsey.. There should be rules against collusion for agents also..
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Priest31kc Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: JCMO Casino cash: $5325291	great news, atleast get albert in though, dorsey can miss a couple days and be fine. I wanna see him in the first preseason game though!!
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