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Old 09-25-2010, 06:55 PM  
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Former Air Force Officers: UFOs Tampered With Nuclear Missiles
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AOL News (Sept. 25) -- Former U.S. Air Force officers and a former enlisted man are about to break many years of silence about an alarming series of UFO encounters at nuclear weapons sites -- incidents officially kept secret for decades.

When the group appears at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Monday, it will offer testimony about events so chilling, it will seem like a day at a science fiction movie festival.

To put you in the mood for the stories that will soon unfold, we're presenting one here, involving former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas, one of the hosts of the Washington event.


Courtesy of Robert Salas
Former Air Force Capt. Robert Salas says he was involved in a 1967 incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana in which a UFO reportedly tampered with nuclear missiles.
Salas, co-author of "Faded Giant" (BookSurge Publishing), was a first lieutenant in 1967, serving as a missile-launch officer while stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana.

On March 16, 1967, Salas was 60 feet below ground working a 24-hour shift monitoring a launch-control center outfitted with 10 nuclear Minuteman missiles.

"I got a call from the topside guard, telling me they were watching some strange lights flying around in the sky, making odd maneuvers. They didn't think they were airplanes because they were going very fast, turning on a dime and not making a bit of noise," Salas told AOL News.

"A few minutes later, he called back, this time screaming into the phone, scared to death, and he said, 'Sir, I'm looking out my front window and there is a glowing red oval-shaped object hovering right above the front gate, and I've got all the guards out here with their weapons drawn.' "

The guard told Salas the UFO was approximately 30 to 40 feet in diameter with a very bright, pulsating light.

When the guard asked what they should do next, Salas' immediate response was that they had to do whatever was necessary to protect the nuclear missile area, "so basically, I was giving them permission to use whatever force they needed to use to keep anything out."

As Salas started to inform his duty partner and commander about what was going on 60 feet above them, something chilling happened.

"All of a sudden, we started getting bells and whistles going off. As we looked at the display board in front of us, sure enough, the missiles began going into an unlaunchable, or no-go, mode. They couldn't be launched -- it went from green to red.

"We also had a couple of security violations, meaning there were lights indicating some kind of intrusion at the missile sites, where the missiles were actually located, about a mile or two away from the launch control facility."

Salas said they immediately performed a system checklist to see what was wrong and to determine how it was possible that 10 nuclear missiles could suddenly be deactivated.

"We were getting mostly guidance and control systems failure, and when I called the guard again, he told me the UFO just left and took off at high speed. So I ordered the guards to go out to the missile sites, and while they were out there, they saw the object again at one of the launch facilities.

"It scared them to death again, and they actually lost radio contact while they were near the object and then they returned to the base. I later learned they never returned to security guard duty."

Salas said it was extraordinary that they lost so many missiles at the same time. Isolated mishaps had made a single missile go "unlaunchable," but never 10 at once. And never 10 at once during a UFO sighting.

As a result of the incident, the missiles had to be fixed to get them all back into launch mode.


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Old 09-28-2010, 04:00 PM   #61
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Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:03 PM   #62
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There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would tale 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,00 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use
Unless they are going faster then the speed of light..

It is not aliens, it is the damn time travelers..
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:04 PM   #63
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There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would take 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,000 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use
Maybe earth is a school zone and they have to travel slow..
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:04 PM   #64
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Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.
While I agree this story is probably BS, you are completely missing the point that you being human may not be evolved enough to understand the physics or concept of it etc...

Kind of like how an ant doesn't understand how to drive a stick shift.

You are trying to take human knowledge and understanding of science and apply it to something that isn't human at all.

People 20 years ago would shit if they had seen an iPhone and we are talking 1990.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:06 PM   #65
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Gotta think outside the box Dave. Maybe their brains are easily 1000 times more powerful than ours. Maybe their math is based on, say, 12 digits! Who knows?!
Like I said earlier, just because you don't have a concept of something, doesn't mean it's impossible. Take ants for example - they're not aware of anything outside of their universe - they know how to build an anthill and live in a simple society but just because they have no concept of us, doesn't mean we don't exist or can travel much greater distances with ease and do things magnitudes outside of the realm of their brain function.

We could be those ants. I don't think we'd be magnitudes lower in brain capacity but even just one magnitude (like say the difference between us and other large primates) would be enough to create that great separation in thought, technology and knowledge in general.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:08 PM   #66
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Like I said earlier, just because you don't have a concept of something, doesn't mean it's impossible. Take ants for example - they're not aware of anything outside of their universe - they know how to build an anthill and live in a simple society but just because they have no concept of us, doesn't mean we don't exist or can travel much greater distances with ease and do things magnitudes outside of the realm of their brain function.

We could be those ants. I don't think we'd be magnitudes lower in brain capacity but even just one magnitude (like say the difference between us and other large primates) would be enough to create that great separation in thought, technology and knowledge in general.
Look at the post above yours. Kinda odd we both used Ants as an example. I kept it more basic though.
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Look at the post above yours. Kinda odd we both used Ants as an example. I kept it more basic though.
Hahaha, that's awesome. Looks like you beat me by 2 minutes; but yeah, we're talking about the same exact principle. It's kind of like how we can't exactly conceptualize infinity (I mean, we have calculus with infinite limits and then the higher math) but our brains just weren't made to process infinity or, at least, that part of the brain is locked away if you want to go into spiritual discussion and the greater consciousness.
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:13 PM   #68
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There are 100,000,000,000 stars in just the Milky Way. If the Aliens had the technology to visit and explore 1 star every day and scan all its planets it would take 274,000 years just to explore the Milky Way.

Then there are over 200,000,000,000 seen galaxies each with approximately 100,000,000,000 stars in them. If there was an army of Alien explorers out there it would take 100s of trillions of years to find us. You gonna random Wormhole your way through all of the stars out there?

Mathematically the probability is approaching 0 whatever 12 base math system you use
Before someone starts crafting me a tinfoil hat my stance on aliens is simply: I don't know.

But, if you believe in the big bang theory isn't it possible that those galaxys 10,000,000,000 light years away have had much more time (less is possible of course as well depending on your position relative to the *bang*) to develop technology? They may have had nuclear energy back when we were still trying to crawl out of the ocean.

Take a look what we've managed to develop and advance technologically over just the past hundred years. A laptop that weighs a mere 3 pounds has the processing power of a computer that filled a room just 100 (give or take) years ago. Now take those advances and give it say....100,000 more years.

Just saying, for something we know so little about you seem awfully sure.
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Hahaha, that's awesome. Looks like you beat me by 2 minutes;
That's cuz he's a time traveler.
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Why people think that this planet or solar system is of any interest or significance is beyond me.
Because we have California Pizza Kitchens and Kate Beckinsale, obviously. I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Anyhow, there's really no way to know if or why highly advanced civilizations would be interested in our planet. Hawking surmises that it would be due to our natural resources ... the universe is comprised of much of the same stuff and we may have more rare stuff than other places do ... like liquid water.

Besides, they may not be extraterrestrial at all. They could be inter-dimensional beings of some sort ... from one of the various multiverses proposed by bubble or quantum theory.

Either way, I think it's time to invent some kind of Abduction Butt Blocker that fits neatly in the rectum and emits a surprisingly shrill noise and noxious fumes when one of those bastards tries to probe your ass. Given the Vatican's recent statement, the UN's appointment of an intergalactic diplomat and the coming disclosure from the US government, I predict a booming business in Abduction Butt Blockers.

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Old 09-28-2010, 04:47 PM   #71
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Before someone starts crafting me a tinfoil hat my stance on aliens is simply: I don't know.
And I think that's the most logical stance to have.

I think some people, especially detractor/debunkers (I do not use the word "skeptic" because they are not thinking skeptically), lose sight of the fact that the topic is Unidentified Flying Objects. The key word being "unidentified". And not "alien".
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While I agree this story is probably BS, you are completely missing the point that you being human may not be evolved enough to understand the physics or concept of it etc...

Kind of like how an ant doesn't understand how to drive a stick shift.

You are trying to take human knowledge and understanding of science and apply it to something that isn't human at all.

People 20 years ago would shit if they had seen an iPhone and we are talking 1990.
That's an excellent point. There are people on earth today as evolved as we are (south american villagers) that would no sooner understand how the most basic of modern human invention works (light bulbs, telephones, radios, televisions, etc.) than the most advanced among us could understand how a concept such as bending time would be possible.
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Hell, I couldn't tell you how my TV works. Albeit mainly because I don't care. But, hey, I turn it on and it works.

But I do understand that it's technology and that there aren't little people in there, or that the camera phone that lady is taking a picture of her kid with is probably not stealing her soul.

Or is it?
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Because we have California Pizza Kitchens and Kate Beckinsale, obviously. I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

Anyhow, there's really no way to know if or why highly advanced civilizations would be interested in our planet. Hawking surmises that it would be due to our natural resources ... the universe is comprised of much of the same stuff and we may have more rare stuff than other places do ... like liquid water.

Besides, they may not be extraterrestrial at all. They could be inter-dimensional beings of some sort ... from one of the various multiverses proposed by bubble or quantum theory.

Either way, I think it's time to invent some kind of Abduction Butt Blocker that fits neatly in the rectum and emits a surprisingly shrill noise and noxious fumes when one of those bastards tries to probe your ass. Given the Vatican's recent statement, the UN's appointment of an intergalactic diplomat and the coming disclosure from the US government, I predict a booming business in Abduction Butt Blockers.

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