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Old 04-22-2008, 09:39 PM  
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I guess this means Gholston is a Chief?
Fine by me....
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:26 PM   #61
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That's why I chose him at #1.
I think they should have gone with him 1st too.....
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:26 PM   #62
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WTF, did I not kiss his ass enough for you?
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:27 PM   #63
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It must just be me but I don't love Chris Long, I don't think he'll bust but there is a legit chance that he'll only be a solid player that records is 7-10 sacks a year but never dominates.
I guess we're just on opposite sides of the fence on this one. I think Long would be a better pick for a number of reasons. Character, intelligence, motor, etc. He also had just as many sacks as VG. Gholston is a Physical specimen who could be very good if he could be more consistent. I think most of the "experts" hold the same opinion. I just dont think he's a cover 2 guy either.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:28 PM   #64
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Gholston could be good coming off the edge in a cover 2. I don't think he has the moves of a Freeney but is stronger. Not my first, or second choice but I wouldn't complain.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:29 PM   #65
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How does Gholston have character flaws? And now he's dumb too?

We don't know these men for all you know Gholston is a great guy who's smart.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:29 PM   #66
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WTF, did I not kiss his ass enough for you?
Acturally, if you'd called him a cheating one who sucks the penis, I'd been okay with it.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:30 PM   #67
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He also ran a 4.65 and had a vertical jump of 35 inches, ask the 260 lb guys at your gym if they can do that

He's a right defensive end which means stay at home on the run and pin your ears back and kill the QB on a pass, not really the toughest posistion to play outside of beating the man in front of you.
Thats my point. He doesnt anchor well against the run, and he takes plays and games off. Just being a physical specimen doesnt make him a great NFL player. You got to give it every play and in his college career he didnt do that consistantly speed and muscles or not.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:32 PM   #68
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Not quite certain if Gholston is my 1st choice but from what I see all the draft experts call him the best pure pass rusher in this draft so I'd be okay with it.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:32 PM   #69
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I think im on the Gholston Bandwagon now, the more i think about. This guy is just a beast
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:32 PM   #70
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Gholston actually plays the run pretty well, better than most pass rushers, he plays on the right side for christ sake the strong side end.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:32 PM   #71
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remember what Herm said at the predraft presser, he also looks at guys who have intangibles that can dictate a game. There are reports that Gholston lack motiivation, thus II wouldn't select him if he was available due to that.Personally, I would pass on Gholston, because of the bust factor.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:33 PM   #72
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I think it's funny that people think he needs 25 sacks to prove that "he was productive"
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:34 PM   #73
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You guys don't think Ellis would be a great first pick? You can put Turk and Tamba on the outside with Ellis and Tank in the middle. Im excited about this draft. We have a lot of picks in the early rounds. I know alot of you dont like Herm's coaching style but the man has an eye for talent.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:35 PM   #74
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Does he need to put up 25 sacks for you to be sold?
It would probably help if he didn't go to Ohio State. It would take maybe 1000 sacks to get over my sheer level of loathing for that program.

Like I said, Gholston strikes me as more of a physical specimen than a football player. That doesn't mean he can't develop into one, but I see him as somebody who's going to have to work a great deal on his technique, his recognition of both blocking and plays and just his overall understanding of the game. He's not going to be able to depend solely on his athletic ability in the pros. And that's exactly what I think he did in college.

Which is why I think it would be a risk at 5. But, hey, I don't spend a billion hours going over every play he ran his entire college career, which is why it won't bother me a bit if the Chiefs take him. I'm not the kind of guy who can fool himself into thinking he's even in the same galaxy as a pro scouting staff when it comes to knowledge of these players, or projection of what they'll be down the road.
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I'm all about it. I'm already over JA, just thinking of the monstrous beast this guy is. If anyone actually watched OSU football consistently they'd realize what an amazing disruption this guy can be..he can totally dominate the line,and he's just a freak...he's a super-human beastman ready to skullf*** the AFC West.
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