NFL Draft Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again - Page 2

Kerberos · 04-17-2011, 12:55 PM

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Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT

Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice.

Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again.

“I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks.

We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith.

“I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.”

We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.

ChiefsCountry · 04-17-2011, 01:41 PM

Scott, the correct answer on draft day and now should have been:

Thig Lyfe · 04-17-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Scott, the correct answer on draft day and now should have been:

-King- · 04-17-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Scott, the correct answer on draft day and now should have been:

Why? We would have went 4-12 with him last year.

Frankie · 04-17-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Scott, the correct answer on draft day and now should have been:

I was somewhat in that boat then. But actually I am not so sure now. Sanchez is a good QB, but I was thinking possible future elite. Sanchez strikes me as another Eli manning.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-17-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Why? We would have went 4-12 with him last year.

You really think Matt Cassel won 6 games for us single handedly last year?

**Bugeater** · 04-17-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

WTF is Scott gonna say? Dude sucks and was a wasted pick. That'll do wonders for the kids confidence.

I'm sure he knows he's a wasted pick.

-King- · 04-17-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

You really think Matt Cassel won 6 games for us single handedly last year?

I do think he had a better regular season and he had less of a margin for error than Sanchez.

Sanchez had only 4 more TDs than INTs and that got them to 11-5.

Cassel had TWENTY more TDs than INTs and that got us to 10-6.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-17-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I do think he had a better regular season and he had less of a margin for error than Sanchez.

Sanchez had only 4 more TDs than INTs and that got them to 11-5.

Cassel had TWENTY more TDs than INTs and that got us to 10-6.

Cassel also played one of the biggest joke schedules in the history of the NFL and has four more years of experience under his belt.

KCrockaholic · 04-17-2011, 02:03 PM

Year 3 is when Sanchez gets to prove everything. He gets it now, he knows the system. He knows the NFL's speed. It's boom or break time.

Rams Fan · 04-17-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Scott, the correct answer on draft day and now should have been:

Sanchez=Flacco

-King- · 04-17-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cassel also played one of the biggest joke schedules in the history of the NFL and has four more years of experience under his belt.

Yeah, I still doubt Sanchez would have had a 27:7 ratio even with this schedule. It's not like he played great against teams .500 and under. He had a 12:7 ratio against them.

-King- · 04-17-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Sanchez=Flacco

I'll take Flacco over Sanchez.

Frankie · 04-17-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm sure he knows he's a wasted pick.

In all honesty, we don't know that. As fans we like to bitch, but some players really disappoint in their first couple of years before they break out and justify their draft. I'm still hoping we are looking at a case like that. After 2011 I'll be sure one way or another.

Frankie · 04-17-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I'll take Flacco over Sanchez.

I'm swaying that way too.

-King- · 04-17-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

In all honesty, we don't know that. As fans we like to bitch, but some players really disappoint in their first couple of years before they break out and justify their draft. I'm still hoping we are looking at a case like that. After 2011 I'll be sure one way or another.

Even if he "breaks out" he still wont be worthy of that pick.

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Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ll-over-again/ Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice. Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again. “I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.” Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks. We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith. “I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.” We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.
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