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Old 02-13-2016, 01:12 AM  
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***Official 2016 STL Cardinals Thread***

  • 2011 World Series Championship
  • 2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
  • 2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
  • 2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
  • 2015 Central Division title. Won 100 games. Lost in the NLDS.
  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • 67 post season wins since 2004. 24+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 06-29-2016, 05:00 PM   #1246
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Saw it on twitter somewhere.


Carpenter, reyes, weaver for trout.

Yeah or nah?
Why do we keep posting stuff like this?

The source was some dumbass STL Today writers answer in a live chat that *gasp* drew a ton of attention. It's almost like that's what he was trying to do?

I would say it had no merit, but it isn't even a rumor so I can't.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:53 AM   #1247
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:57 AM   #1248
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It wasn't even a rumor. Just a talking point for conversation. Sorry.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:22 AM   #1249
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It wasn't even a rumor. Just a talking point for conversation. Sorry.
ignore them. We need all the distractions we can get to make it through this season.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:38 AM   #1250
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You're rolling the dice with a trade like that. It depends entirely upon your internal scouting of Reyes and Weaver.

The Angels still have Trout through 2020. He's a 10 WAR player, which has pretty much never happened before. While Carpenter, Reyes, and Weaver likely get you 9-12 WAR by themselves, if you fill two roster spots with league-average starters then you're around 14.

From that perspective, you would make the trade.

However, Trout effectively costs 24 million a year, whereas the combination of the above three would net you about $11 million/year.

So, for Trout, you pay about 2.4 million/win, which is a significant bargain, but Carpenter, Reyes, and Weaver could *potentially* give you 1.1 million/win, but cost three roster spots instead of one.

I don't believe the Angels would ever make that trade, because they aren't great with Trout, and by the time Reyes and Weaver are ready Carpenter will be declining.

You would probably have to add Flaherty and Bader, and the Cardinals would likely ask for a few lottery tickets in return.

If that happens, you would stick Trout in center and live with his CF defense, and flank him with Holliday and Piscotty, while Garcia and Gyorko platoon second, Peralta takes third, Diaz short, and the Moss/Adams duo takes first.

But this would never, ever happen, and once he left St. Louis after 2020, the Cardinals would be one of the worst teams in baseball.


You're rolling the dice on every trade.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:48 AM   #1251
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ignore them. We need all the distractions we can get to make it through this season.
It's not that bad
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:18 AM   #1252
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ignore them. We need all the distractions we can get to make it through this season.
Half game out of the wild card... The horror!
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:43 AM   #1253
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:19 PM   #1254
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Half game out of the wild card... The horror!
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:20 PM   #1255
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:28 PM   #1256
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:32 PM   #1257
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He's gonna work himself out of this mess, isn't he?
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Old 06-30-2016, 05:34 PM   #1258
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Wow. Three walks. Young is nowhere near the zone, and Wong being himself on the bases and Holliday and Adams swing at two 55 footers to strike out.

This team is some kind of piss awful
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Wow. Three walks. Young is nowhere near the zone, and Wong being himself on the bases and Holliday and Adams swing at two 55 footers to strike out.

This team is some kind of piss awful
That first inning was our season summed up in one inning. Minus Rosenthal.
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